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We must test what people say... whether it brings life or seeks to avoid the truth that brings life. We can't seek to justify what we lack by what we think is more valuable...that is not for us to decide. If we truly understood the value of what we lack...then we would waste no time in getting...

You may be confusing the word "creation" meaning a creature made by God...with the New Covenant creation of a new order of people.. Jesus put on flesh to become as we are in order to bring us back to God. So He is the firstborn of THAT creation..the new creation in Himself. It is unwise as well...

You started the OP. I think it behooves you rather to make plain your own purpose for the thread. Is Jesus a part of God? Or is He a created being?

Is your take that Jesus was just an angel? (like the JW's) Just a man? (like Jesus Christ superstar)

Why does the RCC NOT want to baptize in full immersion when they so easily could?

Well said and laid out!

Be strong in the Lord...fight the good fight! I encourage you to remain unmoved by the pressures of the world. :)

The life of Christ quickens us to walk in the Spirit within us. So if you are walking in a heavenly power...even just a little...then you know that Christ is in you! If not...seek, ask and knock until you do!!

If I show you who Israel is...then perhaps you will see the spiritual application... Gen 35:10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel. Gen 35:11 And God said unto him, I am God...

Jesus Christ is life!!!! So as we experience an eternal type of life then we know we are in Him. All that is of Christ overcomes sin.

Sola Trempa? Sola Dunka?

Do see that there is a spiritual realm as well as a physical universe you can see with your naked eyes?

Very good insights Justin! We are living in a dangerous time. The world is getting further and further down a rabbit trail ...even young people think the world will end soon! The forces of evil have infiltrated into the minds of everyone including most Christians who are not being careful...

John 5:24....( the words of Jesus)..." Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes on Him who sent Me HAS EVERLASTING LIFE ( sounds like a position to me) AND SHALL NOT COME INTO JUDGMENT, but has passed from death to life" . Who decides who has faith or not?

What about "without Me you can do nothing" as in no water at all?

I don't think the purpose of a certain Catholic joining recently is for the purpose of edification. just sayin...

If something isn't working...then do it a lot more....that usually works!

FYI those little numbers and letters in blue...those are verses from the bible!

Maybe you're not getting your point across because you are not using enough bold letters? just sayin' BTW...If a man says something in a forest and there is no woman to hear him...is he still WRONG? ;)

Gnostics think they are favoured with special knowledge...so then the opposite is true! God has no favourites. He judges all by their deeds!