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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Those were 7 actual churches in the ancient Roman province of Asia. There is no dual fulfillment there. Where does this end? You can just make any prophecy a dual fulfillment prophecy if it suits your doctrine. Sad.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Apparently, history went on pause and nothing happened after 60 AD or so. Are we really here or just figments of our imagination? When will history continue again? sml
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    It's a serious problem for you to think that the new covenant age started in 70 AD when it was the blood of Christ that established the new covenant. Yes, that is quite clear. I'm not interested in debating that here right now, either, even though I have done that on this forum before. It's not...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You clearly are not interested in adult discussion. You can't even answer simple questions. I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you ever grow up, let me know and then we can talk again.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The unknown single most important thing to be sure to know if you meet a JW.

    Yes! Absolutely. You came out from major spiritual darkness where people were being brainwashed and that is inspiring to see what God did in your life. Also, your testimony could lead other JWs to think about things more deeply and wonder why they are not encouraged to read the Bible and they...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The unknown single most important thing to be sure to know if you meet a JW.

    That is an awesome testimony that you should share with as many people as possible. It's very inspiring! Ah, okay. That might be referring to this... Matthew 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Why are questions so difficult for you to answer? Again... Do you believe that Christians in Judea had to flee to the mountains around 70 AD in order to avoid being caught up in the tribulation and wrath that was going on there in order to avoid being killed or taken captive? Yes or no? I'm not...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    No, Truth7t7 annoys me with his repetitiveness. I'm starting to think maybe you are a bot that just says the same things over and over again.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Sure, why not? Except, in this case, He talked about events relating to His second coming at the end of the age in Matthew 24:4-14 and then about things related to 70 AD in Matthew 24:15-22 and then things related to His second coming at the end of the age in the rest of Matthew 24 and 25. That...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    So, you are obviously a Calvinist and that explains some things while your belief in preterism explains the rest. Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Setting that aside for a minute...do you believe that Christians in Judea had to flee to the mountains around 70 AD in order to avoid being caught up in the tribulation and wrath that was going on there in order to avoid being killed or taken captive? Just curious if you do believe that...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    So, how can you think that a concept that no one believed in the first 5,000+ years (dual fulfillment) since Bible prophecies first began can possibly be true? Why would it take that long for someone to discover that? I think that's ridiculous. Where does scripture itself teach such a concept...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    That is not at all what that passage says. That passage indicates that those who are saved can fall away, and if they do, they can't be renewed again unto repentance. How can someone not be renewed AGAIN to repentance if they weren't renewed unto repentance in the first place? I'm glad that...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The unknown single most important thing to be sure to know if you meet a JW.

    Wow. You have to be very lacking in discernment to not understand that the first fold of sheep He referenced were the Jews who believe and His other fold of sheep are the Gentiles who believe in Him. That has become very evidence as I've engaged in discussion with them. It's kind of shocking...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    A proof that the 1000 year reign of Christ with His people is in the heavenly throne room, not the earth

    Are we not on the earth right now? Are we not kings and priests of God and Christ right now? Scripture says we are. 1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Okay. That doesn't register with me, but it's fine. Glad you don't believe in second chances to repent, at least. No need to discuss it any further. We can't expect to understand literally everything the other believes, so it is what it is.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Where is this concept taught in scripture? Who are these people that are sown by Satan and never have any opportunity to be saved?
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    The parable is primarily about the end of the age, so tares becoming wheat or wheat becoming tares or anything like that is not the point of the parable at all. The parable is about what happens to the wheat (children of the kingdom) and to the tares (children of the wicked one) at the end of...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Premils don't give much thought to what it means for Satan to "deceive the nations". They give it very little thought and assume it has to do with Satan's ability to deceive in general. So, they think him being bound means he is unable to deceive at all and is completely incapacitated. But, is...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Agree. Agree. Right. So, what I always say about Isaiah's account of the new earth is that his audience at the time didn't really have an understanding of the concept of eternity or of there being no more death, which is a concept introduced in NT times, so he explained it in a way that they...