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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Right, but I'm saying I don't see any evidence of there being anything in between death and the second death in terms of having another chance to repent after the first death. I believe verses like Hebrews 9:27 imply that.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    I agree with this. I don't really even understand what this means. In my view we are given immortal bodily life at the last trumpet when Jesus returns so we then have eternal life as a gift from God. And, of course, we are in Christ while we have eternal life. So...yeah. What can we do? We just...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Would you agree that Jesus had to take the power of death away from Satan (Hebrews 2:14-15) and destroy the works of the devil (1 John 3:8) in order for what you're talking about to happen up until that "new era of darkness" comes, which Amills call "Satan's little season"? It is a prison...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Okay, Mr. Internet Policeman. You don't know how frustrating it is to explain something to someone as many times as I have explained Amil to him and he still misrepresents it. So, I can react to that however I want. LOL. I am not embarrassed by it whatsoever. Why do you think it's okay to lie...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    It's fine. No problem. We're all flawed human beings. Let's just try to have grace and patience with each other and realize that we might fail at that here and there. Yes, I knew Davidpt believed that, but you two do differ in that you only see immortals on the new earth during that time and he...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Yes, of course. The vessels of dishonor fit the same description as the tares because they are in the snare of the devil as the passage from 2nd Timothy 2:20-26 shows. They can't be in the snare of the devil without also being children of the wicked one (the devil).
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Right. That has to be true because Satan and his beast work together. They need each other. Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? Anything that happens...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Nothing but silence in response to your questions, as usual. The answer to all of those questions, of course, is no. But, Premils would have to answer yes to all of them to be consistent with their overall understanding of Revelation 20.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    No, your extreme childishness annoys me. And many others, too. LOL. And you're a preterist concerning the first coming of Christ and His death and resurrection. We are fellow preterists! Yay! LOL. You falsely deny that there are periods of time referred to which occur after that tribulation...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    It's not, but I obviously already knew you claim that one. Please explain this. I'm not going to just take your word for it. Which prophecies against Babylon exactly do you think have a dual fulfillment? Please explain this. No, there are none. This kind of thinking can lead to people just...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; So, the tares represent those who are currently children of the wicked one (Satan). Are you not aware that many wicked people have repented of their sins and...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Can a tare become saved?

    Can you please stop misrepresenting Amil? I've told you that you don't understand Amil and that is a fact. So, please don't try to speak for Amils. I showed you the Amil understanding of his binding. Did I ever say that his binding means he can't deceive anyone? No. Go back and read what I said...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Hidden in plain sight: Why I believe this about the Revelation

    That was not meant to be derogatory or anything like that. It was just a riff on the fact that you guys have kind of teamed together to argue against my view on a couple things before. That's all. I know you don't agree with him on everything or even close to everything. If you called WPM my...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Please be patient with me. If you don't want to believe that I'm trying to just discuss scripture and leave insults out of it, then I can't help that, but you don't know me. God does and He knows that I confessed to Him that I was wrong for doing that and I asked Him to help me stop doing that...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    If I understand you correctly, you seem to think that some people will be raised with immortal bodies and you think they can die after that. Yet, the word immortal means this... immortal (adjective): living forever; never dying or decaying. How can someone die who lives for ever and can never...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The unknown single most important thing to be sure to know if you meet a JW.

    That is just terrible. That is one of the worst cases of cherry picking of scripture that I've ever seen. They ignore about 99% of Romans 6 and form doctrine out of the 1% that they pull out of context. Very sad. They are very deceived and we need to pray for them.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    LOL. They also believe Jesus died around 30 AD and rose again around 33 AD just as you do, so I guess you are a preterist, too. You are so incredibly childish. Please grow up.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    ANOTHER FACTOR THAT PROVES AMIL FALSE, PAUL WISHED FOR A RESURRECTION OF THE UNJUST ALSO

    Your cousin? What does that mean? Your false religion has misled you. In terms of what Jesus was referring to in Luke 16:19-31, He clearly was referring to a place that was separate from the place where the souls and spirits of believers were (Abraham's bosom). That place is called hell or...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    How could the temple still be considered the holy place after the veil of the temple was torn in two when Jesus died? That signified that people would no longer need to go to Jerusalem and go to the temple to worship God, but that God would come to them wherever they are by way of the Holy...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    My preterist eschatology? Do preterists believe that Matthew 24:29-31 relates to the future second coming of Christ like I do? No. Do they believe that Matthew 24:9-13 refers to things that happen just before the end of the age when Jesus returns like I do? No. Do they believe that the book of...