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Are you really that naïve? I run across multiple people on multiple Christian form sites on a regular basis who teach salvation by faith “and works.”

I attack salvation by works, but I don’t attack saved by grace through faith, not works, created in Christ Jesus for good works.. (Ephesians 2:8-10)

Say what? o_O This isn’t even about OSAS. It’s about salvation through faith, not works vs. salvation through faith and works.

When did I say that? Faith is the root of salvation and works are the fruit. No fruit at all demonstrates there is no root.

In James 2:14, we read of one who says/claims he has faith, but has no works (to evidence his claim). That is not genuine faith, but a bare profession of faith. So when James asks, "Can that faith save him?" he is saying nothing against genuine faith, but only against an empty profession of...

Amen! In John 14:28, Jesus said that the Father was greater than He and not because Jesus is not God, but because Jesus was also a man who was in a lower position (Jesus here is speaking from His humanity) "..made for a little while lower than the angels.." (Hebrews 2:9) Yet in John 10:30...

I was recently in a discussion with a Roman Catholic who makes the same mistake as you do. After he stated that the Roman Catholic church does not teach salvation by works, he then contradicted himself by saying this below: We ARE saved by faith - as long as you properly define "Faith". Faith...

It's you who refuses to see the truth BECAUSE YOU TEACH WORKS SALVATION. Once again, the good deeds of the redeemed (those who have done good) are not the basis or means of obtaining salvation, but is the evidence of it. A person's conduct, whether good or evil, reveals the condition of his...

John 3:5 - Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. John 4:10 - Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He...

Prior to my conversion several years ago, I believed as you do now, so none of your arguments or false accusations are anything new or enlightening. By saying that doing good is "part" of salvation, you are clearly teaching works salvation. So is it 50% faith and 50% works that save? What about...

My explanation is in perfect harmony with Jesus' explanation. It's you who puts a spin on Jesus' words in order to promote works salvation.

You are teaching salvation by faith (your version of faith) + works in contradiction to God's Word. (Romans 1:16; 3:24-28; 4:2-6; 5:1; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9; Philippians 3:9 etc..). The Greek words for "pistis" and "pisteuo" are two forms of the same word. "Pistis" is the...

Jesus explanation lines up with my explanation...period. You just don't have ears to hear. What did Jesus say in (John 3:15,16,18; 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26) Nothing there about salvation by works either.

So faith "is" keeping the commandments? How do you define "keep"? Faith without works is dead does not mean that faith is dead until it produces works and then it becomes a living faith or that we are saved by works. James is simply saying faith that is not accompanied by evidential works...

So faith "includes" works? So what you are basically saying is that faith "is" works. I figured you taught salvation by works, which explains a lot.

Jesus was very clear as I already explained in post #354.

Believers must do good or will do good? The good deeds of the redeemed (those who have done good) are not the basis or means of obtaining salvation, but is the evidence of it. A person's conduct, whether good or evil, reveals the condition of his heart. Doing good flows inescapably from a...

Colossians 2:9 - (AMP) For in Him all the fullness of Deity (the Godhead) dwells in bodily form [completely expressing the divine essence of God]. For those who do not believe that Jesus is God (in essence/nature) who or what do you believe He is? There is God, there are angels and there is...

Supreme Court’s 9-0 Ruling Protects Americans Against Excessive Fines

Just watched an episode of 60 minutes last night that discussed UFO sightings.