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No, but unfortunately there are several churches that teach salvation by works and NOSAS becomes intertwined with type 2 works salvation for these people, but not everyone in the NOSAS camp falls in line with them. My brother is one such example.

See. No need for a broad brush. ;)

My brother attends the Church of the Nazarene and believes NOSAS. He does not subscribe to "type 2 works salvation" but believes a genuine believer can later stop believing and walk away from Christ, thus losing their salvation. He also believes that only a small percentage of believers would do...

So you are fighting against the truth in Matthew 7:22-23 because you believe it would uphold OSAS?

This passage is cut and dry to me. "I never knew you" clearly means that Jesus never knew these many people. In context, Jesus mention false prophets and He contrasts a good tree with a bad tree, which further proves my point. A lack of obedience to the sayings of Christ, along with practicing...

I never said that all NOSASers were unsaved. Regardless of whether someone believes OSAS or NOSAS, we are still saved by grace through faith and not by works. (Ephesians 2:8,9)

Who is playing the victim? I've met some very judgmental NOSASers myself, but I have also met some NOSASers who are not so judgmental. You need to put down your broad brush and take a deep breath.

Who am I judging? I grew up in the Roman Catholic church and know first hand that works salvation is not a phony excuse. All I keep hearing in this thread is NOSASers judging and criticising OSASers. I don't paint ALL NOSASers with a broad brush.

Keep in mind that ALL false religions and cults that teach salvation by works strongly oppose OSAS, which has always been a red flag for me. Now this does not mean that everyone who opposes OSAS attends a false religion or cult, but the red flag is still raised. How is OSAS a cult? I find that...

I'm absolutely serious. Jesus never knew them which means they were never saved. Period. Don't confuse "nominal" Christians/false prophets etc.. with genuine Christians who have a relationship with Jesus Christ. John 17:3 - And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and...

So never doesn't mean never? Jesus did not say I once knew you, but don't anymore. He clearly stated I never knew you. The term "know" implies intimate, experiential knowledge, through a relationship with Him, not merely theoretical knowledge. (John 17:3) If they truly believed in Jesus unto...

Matthew 7:23 - And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

I'm still a member of CF.com and I get tired of arguing with liberals, atheists and pseudo Christians (especially in the political threads) on that forum. I also get tired of the mods attacking Christians over nit picky rule violations when correcting false teachers, while the false teachers get...

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Now I've had the time of my life. No, I never felt like this before. Yes, I swear it's the truth. And I owe it all to you.

Some people jump to the conclusion that John is talking about born again Christians committing certain sins that lead them to spiritual death, but that does not seem to fit the context - 1 John 5:16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will...

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