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You could quote many more similarly worded scriptures and the weight of evidence in your favor would still be offset by those with a penchant for dissecting leaves to distract from the forest.

I think many would like our errors to reside in both what we teach officially and unofficially. Historically not all Adventists have expressed our true teachings regarding law and obedience with the rectitude such a topic demands. Me Included.

@amadeus I left Catholicism for similar reason as yourself. I knew nothing of doctrine. After meeting Jesus I naturally gravitated back to the only church I knew... The Catholic. I went twice. I spoke briefly to the priest at the end of the second service. I simply shared with him my recent...

Mmm. God forbid that anyone would observe a commandment because they love Him right?

Yes, we teach righteousness by faith. But there are many of us who become a little bow legged and awkward when walking that line that others place between grace and obedience.

Yeah, that legalism. Even Ellen White herself said categorically that there are genuine Christians in every denomination, and Catholicism wasn't an exception.

I am delighted you have a spiritual home and have peace in your relationship with Jesus. May God bless your ministry

Sure. And who would deny them that right. Yet those clubs and organisations had a purpose, and that purpose was better accomplished through organised effort. For example the Surf life saving club I was a member of for many years. Me to. Absolutely.

It saddens me seeing elderly people walking parks wearing masks. 20 meters away from anyone else, often out of sight of anyone else walking, the masks remain. Fear. An elderly gentleman mowing his nature strip beside the road. Masked. People walking alone with no-one else in sight. Masked...

Had a bit of a storm last night. Lasted about an hour and knocked trees down everywhere. Sadly 3 people killed by fallen branches. Power was just turned back on after 26 hours. No wifi. Praise God for Noah's flood... We had gas. All this on top of curfews and lockdowns and masks etc etc etc. Oh...

I found it impossible to stay a Catholic after learning that Jesus actually lives and wants to be our friend. Relationship trumped ritualism. I then found it impossible to stay a Pentecostal after learning of the Sabbath. The Sabbath led me to other revelations equally astonishing...

SMH

I've been an Adventist for 23 years. I know exactly what the church teaches on this topic, and I happen to agree with it. I think it is you who needs to read what they teach... It is you who is pretending to understand Adventist teachings better than the Adventists on those forum.

According to spiritualism, the occult, and every false pagan religion I can think of such as Hinduism and Buddhism etc, that is precisely what death means.

My point precisely. Eternal torment has them suffering the same. In the same fire for the same time. Annihilation as Adventists teach it, has them suffering for a varying time according to their works... Some with many stripes, some with less... And each individual will expire, die, after true...

I know of an absolute certainty... Even absolutely truthfully... That what I don't know is infinitely more than what I do know.

So, I've been studying the covenants recently, and my thoughts turned to the following. Our Creator God is a God of infinite, unfailing, unwavering, uncompromising love. It always has been and always will be that He would have His erring, sinful, proud and unbelieving creatures to know this...

Marks said... And I didn't disagree.... But by way of conversation and broadening the discussion a little too get perspective, I responded... To which you replied in your usual knee jerk manner... So I asked, And now you are running around in ever decreasing circles trying not to answer the...

Answer the question.

What you call religion is Christ's church, His vehicle for sharing the gospel throughout the world. And it was Christ Who led me to the church wherein I now serve. My allegiance isn't however to the church... It a human institution and flawed... Yet it has a purpose. My allegiance is to Christ...