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Because you are biased toward your side of the equation. Going to Google will get me an objective set of teaching. We will see when presented with actual objective LDS teaching from a trusted LDS site, if you will continue to kick me instead of the ball.

It is interesting that you insist on kicking the players instead of the ball. Isn't this cultish behaviour in itself? I get the same from RCs when I challenge their doctrines and worship of Mary. Also, from evolutionists when I say that evolution is merely a fictional religion dreamed up by...

Right. I will go to Google, go onto a LDS site and download the essential teachings of the church from it's own point of view. That will give me an unbiased, up-to-date view of what the LDS teaches its followers. Then we can discuss what are the similarities and differences between the LDS...

I understand what you are saying. My intention for Jane is to show that the Mormon interpretation of Lucifer and Jesus being natural brothers from the same Father and that Lucifer's fall was because he was jealous of Jesus being chosen to represent the Father in the world, is fictional, and is...

All I have done is quote what has actually been written and said by the prominent "voices" of the LDS. Are you saying that the actual quotes are biased? Or are the true teachings of the church kept from the ordinary members of the church? If you are talking "bias", are you saying that Joseph...

The bottom line in our discussion is the main question: "Is Mormonism Christian?" This involves just exactly who Jesus Christ is. The fact is that there is only one Jesus Christ, and He is described in the New Testament. The only real way to determine if the Mormon Jesus Christ is the New...

Sorry, I didn't realise that I wasn't responding to Jane. Actually, I respect that she believes that she is a genuine Christian because of her faith in Christ. I think that in herself she believes in the New Testament Jesus and not the Mormon one, although she would not admit it. So I give...

Are you unwilling to do any research into the inner workings of the LDS church to find out for sure if what I am saying is true? I am not prepared to give you the answers that you think you have already. I understand that the testimonies quoted in Dave Hunt's book are so disturbing that no...

Well, I am only asking reasonable questions about what I see quoted by Mormon founders and subsequent presidents and apostles of the church. If you think that I am drawing my material from Dave Hunt's or any other anti-cultist's conclusions, then you are mistaken. I am merely reading what...

If you enter "Lucifer" into Google, you will find many answers to your questions here, better stated than I could here. It is that I go along with the orthodox view and not the Mormon version.

So you don't accept "celestial marriage" as a valid teaching of the LDS church? This is entirely relevant because we are discussing whether Mormonism is Christianity, and "celestial marriage" where Mormon couples are married in heaven and continue to have many babies to start colonies on other...

The Bible doesn't say that we will appear before the Judgment seat of Paul or anyone else. It says that we will appear before the Judgment seat of Christ. So Christ is the only judge of whether a person is admitted into heaven or not. The criteria that has been set for admittance into heaven...

So, I understand that you wouldn't acknowledge that the particular elder's remark about the Bible as the common attitude among Mormon elders. Maybe for you, the Bible is more important than any other Mormon publication, including the Book of Mormon. But that might prove a problem for you...

But the quote comes from the 1984 Priest manual - around 100 years after Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. Seeing that I am referring to a copy of the 40 year old manual, the reference may have been edited out. If not, then what is quoted still applies to the present-day LDS church, doesn't it...

Jane, I will put another log on the fire. How would you explain "celestial marriage" where a Mormon husband and wife go through a ritual that enables them to continue their marriage in heaven, and to continue having babies in order to populate other planets? There are testimonies of husbands...

But the reference is not dated 1884. It is dated 1984, and so is a relatively modern teaching - unless 40 years later it has been edited out of the manual. If it is still in the manual for Mormon priests today, then it is still a current teaching of the church, even though you personally may...

I remember once during a conversation with a Mormon elder when I quoted the Bible to him over a theological point, he got angry and retorted, "I don't care what the Bible says!" It was interesting that his companion, a much younger elder, when I started relating how the supernatural gifts of...

If you look carefully at the Bible references to Lucifer, you will find that what you have said is a fictional addition. There is no reference about Lucifer commenting on God's plan of salvation. In fact, Lucifer rebelled against God Himself and wanted to take over from God to rule Heaven...

Also explain this teaching that comes from the Melchizedeck Priesthood manual for 1984 (pp 126-32): "If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority that he has received. We cannot get around him." Brigham Young...

The question is: is it the same Christ as in the New Testament? Explain the teaching that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers and that Jesus was chosen to bring the light of faith into the world, and Lucifer was rejected. As a result Lucifer rebelled against God and became the devil and his angels...