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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Clearly, a number of people as the sand of the sea will die at the end of Satan's little season when fire comes down upon them as shown in Revelation 20:9. What do you do with that? You are every bit as "hysterical, arrogant and argumentative" as you think I am, so you are being hypocritical...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus and Peter taught that the earth will be destroyed unexpectedly on the day Jesus returns just as the earth was destroyed in Noah's day

    Paul also wrote about the day of the Lord that will come as a thief in the night. So, I assume you think that the following passage refers to the same event as 2 Peter 3:10-12 that you think is local to Israel? 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus and Peter taught that the earth will be destroyed unexpectedly on the day Jesus returns just as the earth was destroyed in Noah's day

    He's not reiterating the same idea twice. In verse 10 he begins to expand on the idea he first presented in verse 7 with more detail about the event he referenced there. He paused in between to point out that the Lord is not being slow to bring about the renewal of the heavens and earth by fire...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    You speak total nonsense. I was quoting the Bible and showing what it says in the Bible. You ignore what it says in the Bible about what will happen to those who will say "Lord, Lord, open to us" when Jesus comes. You won't even address those scriptures from the Bible that I used to support my...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Yes, exactly, but the text itself does not say that. It's something you discern using common sense. Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Isaiah 65:20 is figurative. It refers to a 100 year old being thought of as being a child which is a figurative way of indicating that the person doesn't age at all, which represents eternity when no one will age because of being immortal. So, you believe in two new heavens and two new earths...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I actually agree with what you're saying, but it says there will be no more death at that point (Rev 21:4). Why do you guys have death occurring after that?
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I could not care less about that. That just means you're not the only one believing in something that makes no sense. You have the choice to be neither Premil nor Amil til you get this all figured out, if you ever do. Why do you feel the need to commit to either one when you are not fully...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Conscious, but not alive? That's complete nonsense. This is why I say you believe in soul sleep because you say the soul without a body is not alive. That's what soul sleep means. Jesus said that God is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and that He is not the God of the dead, but of the...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Why are you convinced at all that Premil is the correct position when you have to resort to claiming that "the thousand years are the first thousand years of the NHNE" despite Revelation 21 saying that the there is no death on the new earth? Clearly, there is death during the thousand years and...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    That's often the problem with you and me. We look at everything very differently. While 1 Cor 15:50-54 indicates that the glorification (change of the body to be immortal) happens "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, in my view it still happens right after their bodies are resurrected...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    I'm not seeing that he changed the order. He said he understands the placement of the punctuation differently than you do. There's no punctuation in the original Hebrew text. LOL! This response is not shocking at all. You just dismiss every valid argument that I make. It's a joke. You try to...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Talking to preterists is just painful. Let me word the question a different way. Do you agree that Isaiah 65:17-25 and Revelation 21:1-5 speak of the same new heavens and new earth?
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Okay, Mr. Premil Representative. Blah blah blah. Nothing but hot air from you. So, do you believe that the souls of dead people are conscious and alive or not? You can't seem to make up your mind on what you believe about soul sleep. Just because God is able to destroy the soul doesn't mean he...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    You are dodging the point here. Did you think I wouldn't notice that? You are butchering and twisting what Jesus said. Do you believe that God is the God of the living souls of bodily dead believers like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? Or do you think He is only their God when they are bodily alive...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    LOL. More nonsense from the puffed up with pride Zao is life. Are you unable to respond to what I actually said? Does "most" mean "all" to you? Are you paranoid? You must be a narcissist to think that I was talking about you when I actually was talking about Premills who do not take the time to...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    I understood you perfectly because you specifically said that the word "zao" is never used to refer to a living human being without a body. That is not true, as I have proven. Huh? Read that. It makes no sense. Were you intending to say something else here? Jesus used the word zao, not zao...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Like most Premills, you have poor reading comprehension skills. I said "most Premills", not "all Premills". I just referred to "most Premills" again here. So, are you going to say I'm referring to "all Premills"? Go back and read what I said again. I said this: Are "most Premills" all Premills...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Who are you to judge me like this? You're no one. I point out James 1:5-7 frequently to people as being a key to understanding and you have the gall to say this nonsense to me? I believe what I do because I have asked God for wisdom many times. To act like I never have is foolish and shows how...