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Jer 2:21 Yet I had planted thee a noble vine, wholly a right seed: how then art thou turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine unto me? :eek:

2Sa 7:10 Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime,

so which one was the one under bondage and which one was free?

The Angel of the Lord met Hagar in the wilderness. She didn't want to see the child die. The Angel said, God has heard the child from where he is. God said to Cain, where is your brother? I dunno.. Gen 4:9 And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my...

ask Ishmael, ask Paul.. I would think so

don't forget the rivers and the wells. sometimes those run deep. and if there are marshy areas, the heat from the day can cause steam. If I said what I wanted to say, we would all be blushing.. just saying

Yes but your looking at it from an earthy point of view, while I'm looking at it from a prophetic point of view.. Hugs

So we got Jacob. He has 2 wives and concubines. Not all of the 12 are by Leah and Rachel. Some are from Bilhah and Zilpah.. and yet Jacob calls them all his sons. He puts no difference between wife/concubine mothers.

Gen 20:11 And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake. Gen 20:12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife. Gen 20:13 And it came to...

And it wasn't Abram who didn't have faith. He just listened to his wife. If he had listened to God.. they never would of had to get thrown out of the "garden" .

She is his sister/wife. They have the same father but not the same mother... I'm not sure who's sarai's mother is. It doesn't say. But they came from Babylon.. and they had moon worship there. So the female the "godess of fertility" was highly regarded. Except Sarai was barren. And given to...

Abram was taken from Ur which is Babylon.. the dust of the earth. And God told Abram he give him the promised land. So God took the man from the dust of the earth and planted him smack dab in the middle of Eden.

The entire Genesis story is laid out with Abraham. The land which was promised is mapped out when Abraham walked the perimeters from the mountains to the Euphrates to the Nile. The beasts that came to him are the maidervants and manservants he recieved from Pharoah and Abimelech. God was going...

Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

Not to muddy the waters but... I have a controversy.. a few chapters up.. Why does Paul say this: Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. and not attribute it to the one...

You mean as soon as Eve ate? I don't believe there was a heirarchy in the garden. They were both equal no? Before they ate, I mean.. thinking..

and if it was the 8th day, then surely he cut them off... cicumcision and all.. thinking..

I'm curious what day it was the God was walking in the garden. Surely it couldn't have been the seventh because he was resting. And if you look at Jesus example, He healed on the sabbath, he didn't curse. And Jesus said He does what he see His Father do. So I wonder who the "we" are in the...