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One of your quotes mentioned that the kingdom of God is within us. Can't argue with that, who's going to call Jesus a liar? We could talk about that? My question first up, does this kingdom have a king?

You've covered a great deal of ground in a desperate attempt to defend yourself firing pot shots at anyone you can imagine has set up shop to criticise your church yet you still don't know which particular tradition I am speaking of. Your bird shot approach isn't hitting much.

Lol. Honestly, I'm just more convinced than ever that it's as dangerous, possibly more dangerous than the flu... Therefore not altogether worthy of the fuss... And governments are using it politically to gain advantage. Time will tell how effective that advantage will be. The more effective, the...

They? If you read scripture superficially you could end up with a false view of God. KJV Exodus 4 22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord , Israel is my son, even my firstborn: 23 and I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go...

I think there are several scriptures that would give cause for discussion re the above. See Romans 4:9-12; Acts 7:38; Exod.19:5,6; 1 Peter 2:9; Revelation 12:5.

What I spelled out was what I remembered of the shorter version...

God isn't saving us from Himself. Even destruction in hell is an act of mercy toward those who hate righteousness and would loathe heaven. God is saving us from us.

I think that is a very good evaluation. It allows for free will and a deliberate determination to follow after unrighteousness, but expresses the difficulty that I believe would come with such a decision knowing God would make such a decision unattractive. I think it would be more accurate to...

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How do you know it's fantasy...I haven't told you what tradition it is yet.

Half the church today doesn't even believe in the prophetic ministry. Oh, they say, prophecy finished with John. We have the Bible. We have the Spirit. Which is true, yet they are still not hearing the message. And as you say and as Jesus said, if they hear not Moses... I will unabashedly cite...

No, not if your read below the surface. If one just read the highlights.. Flood... Sodom... Plagues... Then one will receive a very warped picture of God. What is God's name? Gracious, merciful, long-suffering, and abundant in goodness and truth. Jesus came in part to declare the true character...

By the way. I don't hold myself up as any sort of exception. We are all asleep and distracted by entertainment and jealous for popularity in the eyes of the world. We are fearful of ridicule. We cower before threats and accusations of being racist and homophobic. We are cowards.

Farrukhabad... India. Farouk's hometown???

I have seen that a couple of times. It's weird. I have never seen such poor building technique. Must be a strange feeling going up in the lifts and suddenly go sideways and have everyone sliding to the lower side of the lift. Be great for skate boarding though through the halls. Unless of...

Things can get a little wild but most tend to self police and refrain from going down the road of blatant name calling. Unless you're Catholic. Catholics here with maybe one or two exceptions don't hold back. One or two non Catholic individuals on this forum don't hold back at all and can be...

Reminds me so much of my signature.

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Guilty... And a long story.

Jesus said any man made doctrine/tradition that contradicts God's commandments was to worship on vain. This is not a Protestant tradition... It's a direct quote from Jesus Christ. I then informed you that there was a particular tradition that fulfilled that specific criteria that Jesus referred...