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  1. Paul Christensen

    entire sanctification*

    The Thessalonians reference says "at" while you are quoting it as "unto". There is a major difference between the meaning of the word "at" and the word "unto". The word "at" points to a particular point in time, while the word "unto" points to something leading to a point in time. What you...
  2. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    You already have one. It is called the righteousness of Christ. "He was made sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God in Christ" A thought came to me. You have the breastplate of righteousness! That is your sin-proof vest!!!
  3. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    Eternal security for the believer who lives a holy life and keeps running the race to secure the prize of the high calling of God in Christ.
  4. Paul Christensen

    entire sanctification*

    I can live with that!
  5. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    Ah! It is great to have a third horse in the developing two-horse race on this thread! :-)
  6. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    I reckon that the moment we were born again of the Spirit of God we became dead to sin. So how can sin have any effect on us if we are dead to it? In that sense, we are entirely sanctified the moment we were converted to Christ. I thought that was what conversion was all about - having the...
  7. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    Trouble with the doctrine of entire sanctification by faith is that every time one gets angry and kicks the cat, he has to go through the whole process of being re-entirely sanctified by faith. It seems to be a flip flop, up down up down sort of arrangement to me. I'd rather accept the...
  8. Paul Christensen

    entire sanctification*

    Yep. That's what the verse says alright! But does it say "at the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ" or "before the coming"? So when are we blameless? When we were born again and covered with the righteousness of Christ, or when we achieve some type of sinless perfection. I am not trying to...
  9. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    Not the Antinomian version.
  10. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    I have never said that, because I don't believe it. The Scripture plainly says that without holiness no person will see the Lord. The word Antinomianism defines those who think they can do anything as long as they have faith. But Paul expressly said that as we live in the Spirit, we are to...
  11. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    You forgot (or did you?) to include 1 John 2:19: "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us." A person can believe from their minds but not go on to be...
  12. Paul Christensen

    entire sanctification*

    Sinless perfection belongs in cloud cuckoo land. It is not necessary because we are already the righteousness of God in Christ and so we run the race toward the ultimate prize of the high calling of God in Christ which will happen when the dead in Christ will rise first, and those who are alive...
  13. Paul Christensen

    entire sanctification*

    Entire sanctification will happen when we rise up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes again. The trouble with those who attain to entire sanctification by faith is that every time they "fall off the wagon", even with the most minor lapse in holiness, they have to go through the process of...
  14. Paul Christensen

    I thought that I would bring this to the forefront...

    Interestingly he said that God does not like those who make fun of tongues and prophecy, and of the Holy Spirit and Jesus. Such people feel the rod of God as He chastises them. I believe that. If we ridicule tongues and prophecy, we are ridiculing the Holy Spirit, and we will pay a serious...
  15. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    To say that a believer can do anything is to clearly oppose Paul's clear teaching that if we live in the Spirit we should walk in the Spirit and forsake the works of the flesh (listed in Galatians 5). Show me any professing believer who has a desire to go back into his past life before he...
  16. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    But he was still the man's son. No matter how far a believer gets away from his former walk in the Spirit, he remains a son of God. If he never comes back to his walk in the Spirit his chastisement is that the locust has eaten up his best years when he could have had the blessing of the Lord...
  17. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    The analogy of a child in a family, that if the child is disobedient he or she is not "fired" from the family. He or she is chastised. This is the same with believers. God does not "fire" us from the family if we fail to walk in the Spirit as we should. He chastises us. The Scripture...
  18. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    We have no way of knowing who is saved and who isn't, because we cannot see inside people's hearts. Who know whether you or I would be one of those who ran out of the church? Are we better than Peter, who denied the Lord when faced with personal danger...or the other disciples who ran away...
  19. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    There is no proof that they actually did cast out demons. They just said they did ("Didn't we cast out demons in your name?). Roman Catholic doctrine involves exorcism. There are many who have a form of godliness who purport to cast out demons, so just because people say they cast out demons...
  20. Paul Christensen

    Those who deny Eternal Security

    Very much like modern times. When there are the free lunches, guaranteed healing and the happy, happy, clap, clap, the crowds come. But a pastor who stands for and preaches the gospel in his church, he is lucky to get as many as 200 people, often a lot less. We have to be suspicious of a...