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Yes, I began noticing that many years ago. They have always done that since I started posting on forums like this. It gets tiresome. Any objective person following the discussion can see that we don't hide from any challenge to our view or any false accusation that is made and address every...

When the dead in Christ are resurrected at Christ's return their bodies will be changed to put on immortality and will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air (1 Cor 15:50-54, 1 Thess 4:14-17), so you can't be talking about them. So, who are these resurrected saints exactly that you're talking...

I referenced Matthew 24:9-13, so are you saying you believe we are in the time now when persecution, deception, apostasy and wickedness have increased? I specifically said that he saw a scroll, so I'm not sure why you're saying this. Because it had two messages on it with one message on each...

Right. They have learned nothing from the Pharisees' mistakes when it comes to understanding the kingdom of Christ.

He cries about us accusing him of misrepresenting our Amill view, which he does often, and says you are doing the same and being hypocritical as a result. And then he proceeds to offer no evidence to show that you misrepresented Premill in any way and didn't even indicate what it is that you...

I very much dislike how you act like you are the ultimate Hebrew and Greek expert. I know you are not. Why are you so full of yourself? At least he actually went through each word in the original text and explained how he came to his conclusions. Why are you not doing that? In my view neither...

But, in your case, you misrepresent what our view requires because of a lack of understading what we believe. So, how exactly did WPM misrepresent Premil in what he said? You're not doing the same. Can you show that what he said is not true of what Premils believe? Then do so and stop whining...

Okay. I was only looking at what he actually said in the post you responded to. You need to read what it says more carefully. It says "Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?. It does NOT say Premils must invent two resurrections...

How am I changing Revelation 19 exactly? All you do is make claims without backing them up. Tell me why anyone should take you seriously when you never provide coherent explanations to back up your claims?

That's not true because you have the rapture occurring and Him coming before the tribulation when scripture clearly teaches that He comes AFTER "the tribulation of those days" ends (Matthew 24:29-31). Mark 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon...

Right. So, there's nothing more to say about that. And, yet.... Yeah, and you did the same. We've established that. Shall we repeat that fact over and over again or just realize that we both have done that and....whatever. Move on. I don't recall ever saying you were ignoring me or not reading...

Luke 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. This verse does not support your comment "what we will come to expect is not what will be.". This was just another way of Jesus saying we don't know the hour that He will come. I don't try to predict...

I'm not going to bother addressing the rest of what you said because I couldn't possibly disagree more and I know the discussion will go nowhere. But, I did want to address this. You are obviously not referring to the passage I was talking about that makes no mention of Sodom (Matthew...

Where did He say that?

LOL. This certainly doesn't say He is returning to earth. LOL. It's saying He will descend from heaven in like manner as He ascended there. In what manner did He ascend to heaven? Visibly and bodily. In what manner will He descend from heaven? Visibly and bodily. It does NOT say He will come...

No, that was fine. I meant to delete that comment after posting it, but somehow I didn't end up actually doing that. I didn't realize at first that you weren't actually quoting the verses at all, but putting the verse references and then adding your commentary next to each verse.

I appreciate you saying that even if you disagree. We could use more of that on this forum. Not sure how you decided that, but okay. Why is it that whatever we think is true probably isn't just because we don't know the day or hour He will come? I'm not sure why I need to accept that whatever...

What are you intending to say here exactly? I'm trying to figure out how your comment here relates to what WPM said. What he was asking about that Premills should answer is when does the bodily redemption of those who die during the supposed future thousand years occur and where does scripture...

This makes a lot of sense, so I might need to reconsider how I present my view of that passage. I normally say that it's figuratively referring to a 100 year old as being a child, reflecting that even after 100 years in eternity (if there was time in eternity) then a person would still be...

I ignore nothing. Premills say "Yes, but..." all the time. Yes, but nothing. I allow scripture to tell me when Jesus reigns and when we are His priests and scripture says that time began at His resurrection. Scripture says He reigns now and we are His priests now (1 Peter 2:9, Rev 1:5-6). Why do...