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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    And I said that I believe it relates to His first coming and how He currently has all power and authority over heaven and earth. If you read Psalm 22 from the beginning you can see that it prophesies a number of things in relation to the first coming of Christ.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Zechariah 5 is imminent

    Like you, for example. That text from Isaiah 30:26 is not meant to be taken literally. Why do you assume everything you read in a book like Isaiah, which contains a good amount of symbolism, should be taken literally? That verse is symbolically talking about a time when the truth would be make...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Amils don't take Revelation 19 literally in terms of it talking about birds literally eating the bodies of those who are killed. But, the text clearly reflects physical destruction instead of the nonsense you showed by trying to relate it to communion. Is this your way of saying you don't know...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Premils make the same mistake the Pharisees did 2000 years ago, with their faulty idea of the kingdom of God

    Well said. Nowhere is it taught that His kingdom would be an earthly one. Like you said, that is what the Pharisees expected. How can it not bother Premills that their expectation of what His kingdom will be like is just like what the Pharisees expected? Jesus said His kingdom does not come...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus will deliver His kingdom to the Father when He returns and not 1,000+ years later

    Jesus and Paul both taught that Christ's kingdom will be delivered to the Father when Jesus comes again and not 1,000+ years later as Premillennialists believe. Here is what Paul wrote about this... 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Why do you act as if Acts 1 talks about Jesus returning to the same location from where He left? It does not say that. For Him to come in like manner means for Him to come from heaven in like manner as He ascended to heaven. What was the manner in which He ascended to heaven? Visibly and bodily...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    He's making what is called an argument from silence, which I think you do sometimes as well. Just because a passage doesn't contain a certain detail about an event doesn't mean that passage must be referring to some other event. It would be one thing if the passage somehow indicated that His...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    This is the most absurd interpretation of any passage that I've ever seen. So, Him smiting people and treading people in the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God means what to you then? Did you not read what I said? I made it clear that I believe Psalm 22 is a prophecy about...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    So? Do you think I'm trying to make a claim that no symbolic text exists in scripture or something? No. It's all about context. Is there also a description there of Job being smited and being tread in the winepress of God's wrath and eaten by birds? How do you interpret this passage...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Would you agree that people die during the thousand years? If so, you should understand that the thousand years can't be the world/age to come. Jesus said that there will be no marriage or death during the eternal world/age to come. Luke 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    It doesn't make sense to me that the rod of iron would be used to get all the nations to worship. It is clearly used in relation to destruction according to Psalm 2:9 and Revelation 19:15. He will break them with the rod of iron (Psalm 2:9) like a potter's vessel being broken into pieces and Him...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    I agree that it's the rapture, but the rapture happens at the second coming. They are not two different events. We all agree that the following passage is about the rapture. It specifically mentions it as being related directly to the second coming. 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    What holy place are you talking about here exactly? And what will make it holy? Where does Revelation 14:14 say He is not coming in power and great glory there? Or are you just assuming that just because it doesn't explicitly mention that? It does mention that He has a crown of gold on His head...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    How are you coming to this conclusion exactly?
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    It says the dead in Christ will be resurrected and changed. What exactly will be resurrected and changed if not their old bodies? No, Paul does NOT clearly indicate that there is a new body right now in heaven. That's nonsense. No one is going to heaven when Jesus returns. We're meeting Him in...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    So, you don't think you have to explain how the elect will be gathered from up in the earth's atmosphere rather than from the surface of the earth? You can just make a ridiculous claim like that without any explanation for what it means? Are you afraid to show that that means?
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    Great response. Just as productive as the rest of your useless responses.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    No, I think that relates to the fact that Jesus has all power in heaven and earth now. If you read Psalm 22 from the beginning you can see that it prophesies about the first coming of Christ. Maybe at the end it fast forwards to the future, but I tend to think it's all about the first coming of...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    It's also worth pointing out that the Greek words translated as "first resurrection" in Revelation 20, which are "protos" (first) and "anastasis" (resurrection) are only used together in one other verse in scripture. Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    When someone believes what they want to believe, as most Premills do, there isn't much you can do to convince them to change their minds. You'd have to change their minds from believing what they want to being willing to believe what scripture teaches no matter whether it agrees with what they...