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I see another thread is fallen to hate and attacking each other.. and not discussion. did not getting a thread locked and another deleted not help detere people from this nonsense?

You have calvinitis. I think it has you looking for things that are not there.

same could be said for you

which is exactly what I said. You can't win an argument when the opposite position is just as possible as your own.

again, have you read John 3? it does not appear you have. this is a thread about Jesus conversation with Nicodemus.. Can you discuss it?

Jesus was carnal? Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of...

I did, have you read my posts? I prety much went over the whole conversation about being born again. maybe you have not read my posts either?

so going back into your mothers womb is symbolic? how?

I am confused. what does this have to do with going back into your mothers womb?

Where do you see this? Just asking

have you read John 3? Because it seems you skipped over a lot of stuff..

The one made with hands 0 saved two of each animal. And they staed saved until delievered, no matter h9ow they acted. the one made without hands does the same, only to everyone who is drawn in and enters. They will be saved, until delievered to the promised land .

Gods answer to the sin problem. Life, new birth, How do we receive this new life? Belief (faith) in the work of God.. 15 that whoever believes in Him should [c]not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him...

I agree but to assume that was what Jesus saw. and why he came I think is to see something that is not in the passage we need born again because we are dead. because we are dead, we do those things.. thats why we need risen..

My friend, You have misunderstood him. He quoted another use that said that. he even asked her what she meant

Please stop I do not listen to greek scholars. I look up a word and see how it was used in the greek.

so like this? 4 What then shall we say that Abraham our father[ has found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for...

so you would say they trusted God, and God saved them?

No we are baptized first. and receive remission of sin as we are baptized by God into his death and into Christ. 'then the HS comes into or anoints us..

the term anoint means to pour on.. when Moses anointed arron, He poured oil on his head. it is a one time event. when the Holy Spirit comes into us, We are anointed by God.. it is a one time event, but alot comes with it (the pledge of the spirit. the gifts of the spirit. the chastening, and...