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it is not death when the bible says they will suffer forever. Revelation 20:10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. They will not cease to exist..

yet your the one who can not counter the scripture I gave you. Call me any name you want. again, your just hurting your own case.. here I will be nice and give you a second chance.. Romans 11: 6 for if it is by grace, it is no longer of works. otherwise grace is no longer grace.. and if it...

You Can't debate. thats why you run every time I call you out with those passages. you can;t respond. you run away But thats ok.. It just shows that I am right.. thank you for supporting me

sadly, thats all we can do. and plant the seed.

sadly,, like EPI and many others. they can not grasp what Jesus meant when he said we must be born again

I am not the one causing scripture to contradict my friend you are. Saying I am out to lunch and not supporting your case that you do notr make scripture contradict hurts your own case.. it shows you have nothing.. and can't counter my argument

No scripture can contradict another part of scripture. When God says it is grace and not works.. we can not say God did nto mean what he said. you must interpret the parts of scripture to match.. YOU sir are not doing that

Romans 11: 6 for if it is by grace, it is no longer of works. otherwise grace is no longer grace.. and if it is by works, it is no longer of grace, otherwise grace is no longer grace Romans 4:4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. 2 Timothy 1:9 who has...

the jews are elect.. yet enemies of the gospel (romans 11) the non saved jews will not go to heaven. if your not elect to eternal life.. You will not see heaven,,

this is legalism, and is a different gospel.. it negates grace and can not save anyone

if you are not of the elect. you are not Gods children. you are still dead in your sin.

yet from your questions and answers.. it does not seem you know what it means or what it is for..

yet he has done that, and you have not..

see, you can not even respond to anything which would appose you or make you look bad. your your own worse enemy..

He won't he would have to admit his error

I answered. You just do not agree with my answer. Don;t take that as a reason to attack and falsely accuse me As I fear for you for the exact same reason you need more answers? 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved...

once again, this does not prove your point

don't boast.. we have not gotten to alot of doctrine yet..

here you go. Not proof.. But evidence which supports..

the "mother of God" was a pagan term..