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  1. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    I just noticed you have 642 message on this forum - maybe you are not authentic in your questions? Yes/No ?
  2. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    There is no condemnation or suffering after death if you have been Born Again by accepting the Lord Jesus Christ and His death on the Cross for your sins against God. Start reading the Gospel John and do not concern yourself with pre-trib rapture. It is not important and it will not save you...
  3. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    It is a doctrine that teaches before the Anti-Christ is revealed the Church will be taken off the earth to be with Jesus. The rise of the Anti-Christ will bring great tribulation upon the earth. Pre-trib teaches that you will not have to endure tribulation. There are no scriptures that clearly...
  4. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    So the Church (the Elect) are One Body (His Body) and therefore ther is no distinction between Jew and Gentile - Correct ??? If this is correct (as the scripture declares it to be), then their is One Rapture that occurs for One group of people = Jew & Gentile in Christ, His Elect.
  5. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    The foundation of pre-trib is changing the meaning of scripture to say something it does not say. Thus they MUST say the elect in Matt24:29 ONLY pertains to Israel. If they don't their doctrine blows up in their face. Yet, it is clear who the elect are that Jesus speaks of - crystal clear =...
  6. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Sorry, I am not angry at anyone. Man made teaching in the Church is the problem - so yes, I agree that that it is not a salvation issue but it will cause some to stumble when the false teaching that they are trusting in falls apart. God does not want us to be confused. God is not the author of...
  7. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    For my brothers who are making this claim - "Jesus established pre-trib" Please show what scriptures - Thank You If a doctrine is of God then it is Truth - If it is of man or the devil - it is a lie, and we who trust in the Word of God and not man know this "no lie is of the truth" EXAMPLE...
  8. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    100% FALSE You are in deception - you suffer from CRT: Critical Religion Theory Ephesians 1:1-14 again burns to ashes your erroneous interpretaion of scripture that has already been VERIFIED by Jesus, Paul, Peter, John, Luke You are all alone, standing with those who trust in man, and have...
  9. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    When Jesus is speaking to the Disciples (the Church) and all those who would believe after (the Church - John 17) He has clearly stated they are His Elect = the Church / His Body / Call Out Ones / Chosen Ones Anyone who says Christ is referring to the nation Israel in Matt 24:29 is not only...
  10. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Beware Brethren of the cunning craftiness of the serpent and how easily satan knows, better than anyone on here, the scriptures and how to, ever so slightly twist them so that a 'New' discovery or 'revelation' or 'exegesis' or 'hidden truth' is known to those who have the 'scholarly aptitude' to...
  11. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    There is no pre-trib view in scripture. The Thessolinicans were it great tribulation, suffering persecution unto death. They were hurting real bad as anyone of us would. Paul writes to encourage them concerning this 1 Thess ch1 No Pre-Trib rapture lies from Paul - PERIOD 1 Thess permanently...
  12. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Mark, what question did you not receive an answer to? The Thessolinican Believers were under great Persecution and Tribulation as they where being put to death for their faith in Jesus. Therefore Chapter 1 of 1 Thess completely obliterates any and all pre-trib lies. Paul wrote to comfort them...
  13. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Please allow me to share who I am - I am a nobody who is loved by Somebody who died for my sins. Saved over 30 years ago. Earnestly studied and continue to study the Word of God for His Truth and the understanding that the Holy Spirit has for each of us in Christ - IF, we are willing to let...
  14. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Love it Mark - made me laugh - Thank You for that
  15. David in NJ

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Here is the deception of pre-trib, this is the twisting of scripture and the ARROGANCE to even suggest that the Lord Jesus Christ did not know or did not intend to include those he was and is still saving as His 'Elect'. What extreme arrogance and pride as stated below. "Paul wrote that the...