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Beware of the treachery and twisting of scripture that 'some' do so that they may seem to have great understanding. The Bible is a chlidren's book written for God's children - the Elect of God. One of the many lies of pre-trib is to say that the 'elect' refers to the Jews - that is false...

Here, once again, isirrefutable proof that obliterates the pre-trib rapture lie. Matt 24:29-31 1 Thessalonians ch 1 1 Thess ch 4 2 Timothy 2:14-19 2 Thess ch 2 Daniel 7:25 and Revelations ch 6 and ch 13 and ch 16 1 Corinthians ch 15 1 John ch 2 These scriptures and others obliterate and...

You have devolved into religious argument and are purposely avoiding scriptural analysis from a pure heart.

The difference between pre-trib and the truth is that pre-tribrs hold to a 'view' - the rest of us hold to the Scriptures that CLEARLY say 'No'. Matt 24:29-31 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days..... the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven.......and He will send His angels...

In my experience with pre-trib doctrine those who cling to it do so without examination of all scriptures that clearly oppose it. They cling to Pastors, Books, Churches and the Majority as justification and security. After all - why would so many Christians and 'Renown' Pastors and Bible...

I have answered your questions - you refuse to accept the answers from scripture - where are the scriptures that CLEARLY show pre-trib rapture? They do not exist in the Bible - it is by adding too scripture what does not cleary state. Meanwhile all scripture is for our edification sothat the...

What is the opening scene, the issue being presented to us today by looking through the life of the Christians in Thessolanica that the Apostle Paul addresses?

You cannot get to Ch 2 wiithout first recieving, digesting and rejoicing Ch1. What is the opening scene presented to us from Ch 1

READ 1 Thessalonians Chapter 1 - Please READ it - that is your foundation of Truth to understanding that which pertains to Christ's Return and the Rapture - our gathering together to Him - our being caught up to Him - AMEN AMEN AMEN

How am I deriding you? I cannot tolerate willful religion that seeks to rob, blind and divide the Body of Christ. I have not derided you - I am helping you and you perceive it as an offense. You have been Born-Again by the Blood of Christ and the regeneration of His Holy Spirit - YES or No? If...

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If you reject the CLEAR passages of scripture and are UNWILLING to bow the knee of pride at the feet of Jesus and His Word - then you have a idol in your heart that you refuse to pull down. You admit you cannot see - that is your decision - it is not truth but your desire to believe something...

Randy, thank you for the encouragement.

Meditate on this passage of scripture, allow it to settle in and free your mind - 2 Timothy 2:15-19

Two things #1 this is not complicated - see my post below and #2 rapture ( caught up ) is in the bible. Pre-Trib rapture is NOT 1 Thess ch 1 obliterates pre-trib rapture as does Matt 24:29 as does 1 & 2 Thess as does I Cor ch 15 as does I John ch 2 as does Revelations

This is not complicated - the Spirits of those who have died in Christ are with Christ now. He will bring them with Him on His Return. Upon His return the first thing Christ does is RESURRECT the Bodies of those who are His and with Him. 1 Thessalonians ch 4 Christ is the Firstborn...

I also believe in the Hope of His Coming - the Resurrection of the Righteous at His Coming and the Rapture of His Elect at His Coming according to the Word of God. Jesus did not say He could come today - The context of a "Thief in the night" is subject, key word here 'subject', to ALL He taught...

In case I missed this question: I say to you; how does it not? The Resurrection and the Rapture are inseparable. But this is how the error and deceit of pre-trib starts - by wrongly dividing the Word of God. Set your feet upon the Rock = Christ's Return & the Resurrection & the Rapture are...

False - The return of the Lord is the main topic of the Book as well as the judgements and warnings - I mean like really? All pre-tribrs do the same thing - cover their eyes & ears to any scripture that exposes their idol, as well as add to and take away from scripture. WOW - Christ's return...

The error of pre-trib will lead 'some' people to recieving the Mark - which will not be forgiven to those (Christian or not) who receive it. The other error of pre-trib is this: "No lie is of the truth" I John 2:21 It divides the body of Christ which God hates - Proverbs 6:16-19 It will be...