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  1. quietthinker

    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    Those who do not reject the gift given them are referred to as believers. That does not mean that those who reject the gift given have not had it given. The word all and many (the many) in their context qualify the the terms. Jesus came into the world to save sinners. He did not fail. The...
  2. quietthinker

    When the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth

    'virgin' is reference to being spotless and clean as we see in Ephesians 5:27, Revelation 21:2, 14:4 It has nothing, repeat, nothing to do with not having had sexual relations. The Church is presented as a pure woman as depicted in Revelation 12 as opposed to an impure woman shown in Revelation 17
  3. quietthinker

    When the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth

    The number 12 signifies all of Gods people throughout all time (known as Israel) not isolated to physical Israel. Physical Israel for the most part were and are an abysmal failure as God's representatives but spiritual Israel ie, all who are truly God's people, Jews and Gentiles alike, are...
  4. quietthinker

    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    I thought the texts are self explanatory but I'll give some details:- Romans 3:23 'for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God'. ...in other words, all humanity is down the flush Romans 3:24 'being justified freely by the redemption which is in Christ Jesus'. Who is justified...
  5. quietthinker

    When the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth

    Jesus came through the line of those who believed in him. Several were not even Israelites like Rahab or Ruth, others also.....yet they are included with God's People (his Church) because they believed. Abraham also was no Israelite for he was around before Israel was established....so you could...
  6. quietthinker

    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    Jesus substituted Adam and all in him, Adam ie. In Jesus' resurrection all men were incorporated. Not all men know this nor do most of them want or appreciate this gift given them. It was done without their request even before many were born. That is the nature of God...gratuitous to the max...
  7. quietthinker

    When the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth

    Your DOTS interpretation is a quaint way of seeing the meaning of 'dots' but its not the understanding I was trying to convey. When I use the 'dots' expression I think of a youngster being given a dotted picture and their job is to join them in a coherent manner....let's say a rabbit.....they...
  8. quietthinker

    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    here are a couple Romans 3:22-24 Romans 5:15-18 ...many were made sinners....how many?....All ...many are made righteous....how many?...All Jesus nullified Adam selling us down the river....how many of us?....All of us
  9. quietthinker

    When the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth

    The eschatology is wrong ViJ....thats why the dots can't be joined coherently.
  10. quietthinker

    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    I can see the garden path coming into view CL. you are being baited.
  11. quietthinker

    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    then my friend, you are unfamiliar with the scriptures.
  12. quietthinker

    Is that His real name Jesus?

    'Name' is code for character
  13. quietthinker

    The Restrainer. And the Restrained.

    you mean there might still be hope for brown ducks and old men?
  14. quietthinker

    The Restrainer. And the Restrained.

    I've been waiting to be edumacated but it looks like I've missed my run
  15. quietthinker

    I don't think Predestination means Salvation

    All of Humanity is predestined for salvation...none are exempt. That's what the good news proclamation is....thats what the angels told the shepherds on Bethlehem's hills said. Jesus is the second Adam...a winner all round for all people!.....Jesus never said to anyone, you do not qualify. He...
  16. quietthinker

    When the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth

    Earthlings are the only inhabitants of Gods vast Creation who have switched their allegiance. Self centredness is now the natural compass.....Satan its overseer and ruler. There is no place for this in any other part of Creation. Satan is in a prison with his subjects and it is Earth to which a...
  17. quietthinker

    Christ only died for past sins...

    u meen, u vill luv ze furer!
  18. quietthinker

    Persecution is promised!!!

    If you have learned to love, persecution will be underway in your reality already.....be it small or great. You'll be an offence to someone in your sphere of influence