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We are not saved by declaring ourselves believers in the blood of Jesus to cover us. That is a pipe dream. We are saved through repentance followed by a new life in Christ with the power (grace) to walk just as Christ. As He IS so are WE in this world.

Rom_8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Those who don't understand the gospel would make Jesus a sinner because he was a man. But Jesus took on the LIKENESS...

We are being saved to be worthy of the kingdom...an eternal kingdom.

Very good! Mat_10:41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

Do you lay on hands to receive the Spirit? Or do you function in a worldly capacity at social functions...are they the same in your view?

A gospel of power! We are actually created to do the works of God. We are not created to be saved. You testify of dead works because that is all you know. Maybe your flesh is sinful. But a disciple of Christ has Jesus within making him a TEMPLE of God. We have this treasure in EARTHEN...

So you agree that grace is the power to be exactly as Jesus...holy and perfect?

You are creating a false set of choices. The gospel is neither of your polemics. It is the POWER of life in Christ exhibited for the world to see and glorify God. Salvation needs to be seen today by the world. Otherwise we are not salt and light in this world but just more deluded religious...

Christians do not have a sabbath day...but a sabbath Lord.

In which realm does the intellectual apply his ideas....in the flesh or in the Spirit? Do you have friends or do you hire professional friends for special occasions? Are we to have wives or hire professional escorts for special occasions? Do we have older brothers in Christ or do we hire...

And we of the nations are grafted into Israel individually to become one people having ONE Shepherd!

The bible speaks of a real salvation...today. You are talking of an eternal security based on a belief system. Your disappointment is reserved for later who do not live IN faith today. Besides being contented in yourself, what is the fruit (today) of your faith? Grace gives us actual...

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Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

This is correct...and it is called the 7th day...not saturday.

There is no saving knowledge. No gnosis or secret handshake will make your nature like God's. We must actually know GOD as He is in the Spirit. We must abide in HIS life to have eternal life. We must have the same experience as Paul and other disciples to be able to fellowship with them.

We are being led by what...intellectual stimuli or the Spirit??? We must become as fools in order to be wise. Have you perhaps missed the nature of the kingdom of God and confused this with worldly achievement? An eternally wise person counts ALL THINGS as dung in order to cleave to Christ and...

Gnosticism states that one is saved by a certain knowledge...like a password that justifies us. Just say JESUS!!! ..then you can sin as you please.....and it doesn't count anymore. Gnosticism makes God into a Rumpelstilzkin who throws a fit if you don't get His name right....unfortunately many...

Trusting in men has never equalled trusting God. I have a bleak view of men's credentials. Who persecutes the saints...the educated religious clerics or the simple brethren?

The experience of seeing the result!