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You didn't answer the question. How can a literal earthquake occur in a symbolic city? It makes no sense. If the city Babylon is symbolic, which I agree that it is, then the earthquake must be symbolic as well.

You didn't address what I said in my post at all. I will assume that is because you have no answer for what I said and you will just believe what you want to believe whether you can support it with scripture or not. It's not reasonable whatsoever that 2 Thess 2:4 is talking about a physical...

Doug, if Babylon is a symbolic and/or spiritual entity representing "man's rebellion at the tower of Babel" and "the spiritual kingdom of Satan and his angels", then why would you take the earthquake that divides Babylon into 3 parts literally as if it was talking about a literal earthquake...

How else does the "sudden destruction" come if not by fire? Do you not believe in interpreting scripture with scripture, Douggg? If one passage (1 Thess 5:2-3) talks about the day of the Lord coming as a thief in the night while bringing "sudden destruction" and another passage talks about the...

A Christian be subdued and defeated physically, but what matters is that a Christian is not subdued or defeated spiritually as a result. That's why the verse which talks about them being able to kill our body, but not our soul, is brought up. You are not differentiating between the physical and...

First, you acknowledge that the word "overcome" can mean physically or spiritually and then you proceed to say it can't mean physically in relation to Christians. That seems contradictory, so you need to explain what you're talking about. In what sense do you think someone can be overcome...

Agree. Premils like him have no problem with believing that even though Jesus established the better (new) covenant with His shed blood long ago, God will inexplicably make things regress to the inferior (old) covenant again in the future. It's just utter nonsense and a complete insult to the...

This is obviously a waste of time because you only allow for one definition of the word overcome and you insist that it can only refer to being spiritually overcome. I disagree and see no basis for that belief. You're not understanding anything I'm saying, so I'm not going to waste any more...

Yes, I am well aware of that. The context is in relation to being overcome physically. You're making this far more complicated than it is. While the enemy might overcome us physically, that does not result in them overcoming us spiritually. Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body...

You are obviously avoiding my question, which is very telling. It's what people do when they believe what they want to believe, which is more typical of premils than of amils like yourself. Explain to me how a non-created being could tempt Jesus in the desert for 40 days and nights. LOL...

Why are you not addressing what I said about Satan tempting Jesus in the desert for 40 days. You are saying that Satan represents the spirit of disobedience in mankind. So, do you think Jesus had a spirit of disobedience tempting him? Does it give the impression that Satan is an actual living...

No, the second coming is not over by that time in Amill. This just shows that you, like most Premills, have no understanding of Amill. That passage is a reference to the second coming, not something that would occur 1,000+ years later. 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief...

You have apparently ignored passages that describe what will happen on the day of the Lord like 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 because passages like those make it clear that the coming of the day of the Lord brings "sudden destruction" by fire on the entire earth from which those in...

The word rapture refers to us being caught up to meet Christ in the air and does not refer to the changing of our bodies that will occur at that time. The rapture is not a mystery. Also, the mystery referenced in 1 Corinthians 15:52 was revealed by Paul. It was something that was previously a...

So, you have no interest in interpreting scripture with scripture. You don't care if you interpret one verse in such a way that contradicts other verses. In other verses when Paul refers to the temple of God it is always in reference to the church, but somehow 2 Thess 2:4 is an exception to...

How do you think that 1 Thessalonians 5:2 supports pretrib? It doesn't support pre-trib whatsoever. The day of the Lord will result in the destruction by fire of the heavens and the earth and will not be followed by a 7 year time period of tribulation as pre-tribs imagine. 1 Thessalonians 5:2...

Yes, quite easily. Matthew 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. 2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. 3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones...

Why are you trying to speak for me? I never said I didn't see that as a privilege and honor. Where did I say anything about it being a case of being defeated? Nowhere. This is a waste of time, obviously, since you seem to be more interested in putting words in my mouth than actually paying...

I've been giving my reasons, so they shoudn't be a mystery to you if you've actually been reading everything that I've been saying. It wasn't hidden. The question about Revelation 21:9 in terms of whether "the bride" is a different entity than "the Lamb's wife". Are you saying "No", to my...

I don't understand what you're trying to say here. In Ephesians 5:21-31, Paul relates the relationship between a husband and his wife to the relationship between Christ and His church. The bride of Christ represents those who Christ has a personal relationship with. Why are you associating His...