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Absurd. Jesus identifies himself as David’s lord. He asks the Pharisees how can David’s son (descendant) be his lord. It is a profound question and they had no answer for it.

Agreed. Yet, we have to go to the next level of detail. Someone used the example recently of supposing one is not a traveller until they finished their travels. It shows a kind of desperation to deny what is obviously the case. Jesus is the Messiah EVEN before he began his ministry, even before...

I think it all comes down to discerning the different senses of work. There is external "works" in the Biblical sense that one cannot claim to earn salvation. Then there is internal work regarding faith and belief. “For this is how God loved the world: He gave[b] his one and only Son, so that...

Yes. Yes, I do want to go down every rabbit hole in defense of our lord. Here's the thing, though. Any reasonable debate ought to recognize the strength and weakness of both sides and I think you alluded to this. The whole reason Christians get uncomfortable and disturbed is because they know...

How does my post not answer the question?

I thought the same thing when I first read the list. There are very likely more than these 6 reasons. In the end, it does not matter what is left out. These 6 reasons are on the table for discussion. The basic question to us all is: A. Abandon the field. Let the 6 reasons stand unopposed to...

<sigh> The opposition to work by many Christians is counter-productive though well meaning. No one is vaguely claiming "works", in the Biblical sense, is needed for salvation. There is the normal use of the word "work" (action) that IS necessary. If this were not true, universalism would be...

I believe things like this is why there is denomination, the Holy Spirit being all things to all people. Want organization? Go to denomination X. Want spontaneity? Go to denomination Y. Praise God!

Well, there is a reason for this. Jesus did not clown people who sincerely turned to God. You do.

Yes. It worked very well with my kids. Thanks! Why do you mention that? OK We are being saved from ourselves. The quote is the Original Sin. See Genesis 2-3. I do not believe we are damned for our sins but by our sins. People want to blame God for judging us - AS IF his standard of...

Thank you. This thread has, IMO, revealed the great spiritual immaturity of many who posted in it. Rather than make a Christian apology, they resort to bashing the unbelieving Jews. In all effective evangelism, one must meet people where they are. This is the foundation of relationship. No one...

I think Jim B holds the record of being put on my ignore list faster than any other human being. Seems like recent evidence supports that most speedy choice. :cool:

Well, that reinforces the validity of the Jews rejecting Jesus because the descent is supposed to be biological and not specious.

I meant to get back to this early and must have missed you conceding this point multiple times. Let's flush this out. Walking in the woods and happening on a book (only) suggests a writer? How do you connect the book to the writer and why is this connection merely a suggestion? Let me suggest...

Good start. But love them too much not to transform them.

Ourselves.

Conjecture.

LOL. Except his virgin birth was not prophecied.

What?! You are confusing the object of the prophecy with the specifics of an individual prophecy. Just because the object is the Saviour that takes away the sins of the world does not mean the Isaiah verse in question is a Messianic prophecy.

Maybe. As another poster pointed out, not one Jewish scholar ever considered the verse in question a Messianic prophecy. Certainly, a Messianic prophecy qualified as the greatest in OT would have the Jews holding up as one. So, there is that.