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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Exactly. Finally, we can agree on something.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Spirits like frogs

    Try reading the Bible in context. The context of the book of Revelation is clearly in relation to Jesus and His church against the enemies of Jesus and His church. Nothing in the OT changes that. You need to stop misinterpreting the OT. 2 Thessalonians 1:6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    They also mention the Gentiles and you said Romans 9, 10 and 11 only mention Israel. So, I proved you wrong yet again. But, you think I never prove you wrong. Of course you won't ever admit that because you are so spiritually blind that you can't even see the explicit references to the Gentiles...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    I go by what you actually say and you get offended. It's unbelievable. Don't blame me for your poor communication skills. You're going by what your English translation says, but our English translations aren't always perfect. You say yourself it's a judgment of individuals, so why does it say...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    It's based on what you were saying. You act like we just spiritualize everything and that is not the case. So, if I'm exaggerating what you do with the text, I'm not doing that any more than what you do when you talk about our approach.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Doesn't look like you've changed at all. I'm done with you until you grow up. I have much better things to do than deal with your childishness. Take care.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Is the first resurrection physical or spiritual?

    It says that it's the time for the dead to be judged at the sounding of the seventh trumpet. When are the dead judged? After the thousand years. So, don't tell us that it's not written that way. Revelation 11:15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Please don't try to talk for us. We believe there are two Israels. Sometimes when it references Israel, it is the nation of Israel (descendants of Jacob) and sometimes it's talking about the spiritual Israel of God. Paul contrasts the two here: Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    God’s people shall inherit and reign on earth.

    You for sure have no idea of what you're talking about, so please stop pretending as if you do. Your arguments for premil are very weak but you don't have enough discernment to even realize it.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Spirits like frogs

    You can't seem to make up your mind as to what Revelation is about. I said "In the book of Revelation the battle is against Christ's church, not Israel" and I gave explicit scriptural support from the book of Revelation itself to back up my point, and you seemed to agree. But, now you're saying...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    You need to learn how to read and ask God for wisdom because you currently have none. Only mentions Israel in Romans 9, 10 and 11? That's clearly false. Are these verses not there in whatever translation you're reading? Romans 9:23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Of course you missed it. You can't understand scripture and you can't understand anything anyone tells you. Please ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7).
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Thank you for once again revealing your true colors.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    You are more naive and childish, as everyone can see. A straight answer to what question exactly? No, we don't. I shared your posts with marks, so he can now see that you are lying to him. You should repent of your lying. You're not fooling anyone with this nonsense. As if you completely...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    I'm not a preterist. You apparently have no reading comprehension skills at all, so it's pointless for me to try to explain things to you.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    I'm inviting you to do so now and it looks like you're trying to find an excuse to avoid it. By all means, please exegete some scripture. For once. It absolutely is not and I know it. You tried what? I don't even know what you're talking about. You had mentioned exegeting something from...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    These are some of the posts from pre-tribbers in response to post-tribbers (mostly WPM and myself) within the past month or two (WPM compiled this list): Dont twist my words Satan. Here are the pre-tribbers who made these posts: MA2444 Taken...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    LOL. You haven't read the pretrib threads then. The posts directed at us post-tribs have been very nasty. Please stop being so naive.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    I will exegete whatever scripture you want. I did say that I don't think Daniel has relevance to the topic, but you're welcome to show where you thikn it does by exegeting any scripture you want and I'll comment on it. That's what I said. Just exegete some scripture already and we can talk...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Yes, it absolutely does. No, you are changing the text to make it say what you want it to say. It does not say that. It says the hour is coming when all the dead will be raised. Some will be raised to eternal life and some to damnation. That's it. You're trying to turn one resurrection event...