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Exactly. Premils do not want to even consider what is required to avoid the second death. Revelation 20:6 says that one must have part in the first resurrection in order for the second death to have no power over them. Is a bodily resurrection required to avoid the second death? No! In that case...

Total nonsense. Our doctrine is based on clear, straightforward scripture. John 5:28-29 says a singular hour is coming when all of the dead will be resurrected, but you change it to two hours coming when the dead are resurrected. And 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 shows the order of resurrections as...

Exactly. To premils the last day is not really the last day in any sense. Similar to how the last trumpet is not actually the last trumpet in any sense to pretribs.

You talk to me, but don't fellowship with me like you did with him even if we agree on something, which we have a few times. I say that Christ's resurrection is the first resurrection because scripture says that. Do you deny that it says that? Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that...

Says the guy who makes straw man arguments incessantly. No, I'll let you have that handle since it fits you so well. Or maybe you can change it to "Amil Misrepresenter" or "Scripture Misinterpreter".

And you miss the point yet again. I'm not talking about the gospel here that even little kids can understand. I'm talking about spiritual maturity in relation to understanding the deeper things in scripture here. Please read 1 Corinthians 2:9-16 and then maybe you can see what I'm talking about...

A classic case of making scripture say what you want it to say. There is no indication of such in the actual description of the seventh trumpet whatsoever. It says the mystery of God is finished at the seventh trumpet (Rev 10:7). But, nothing is finished at the seventh trumpet according to premil.

Glad you are having fellowship with the guy who denies the deity of Christ. I hope you are enjoying that.

Oh, I don't know. Probably because scripture never teaches this nonsense? That would be my guess. LOL. Please ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7).

No, because you misrepresent or misunderstand at least half of what I say. You think the same of me. Okay. So, why bother then? We came to this realization already when we tried discussing this topic before. I don't have the desire to discuss it much more with you now because of how much of a...

Not sure if you're really understanding my point. We shouldn't require that something be explicitly spelled out to us in order to believe something is true or to have an understanding of what a verse or passage is saying. With the Holy Spirit's help, we should be able to discern truth from...

You should at least admit that it was ridiculous for you to even question it. You're the one who brought that nonsense up and created a distraction, so just blame yourself for that.

sovereigngrace Read Davidpt's post if you're still not convinced that we're not the same people. What a joke this is. You should be embarrassed.

There was one other one, so I'm not sure what other ones you're talking about besides that. The only Christian boards/forums I've posted on have been Bible Forums (no longer exists, you posted there also), Christian Forums (we all still post there, but not much these days) and this one. But...

You know a lot about straw man arguments. You are an expert on making them against Amil. You do it repeatedly and THAT is a sad thing. Do you not believe that the earth will eventually be burned up and renewed (2 Peter 3:10-12)? You've said that before. How is that a straw man argument?

Are you not able to read? Why are you asking him that when I already told you it is christianforums.com and we are both still members there. I still post there occasionally (as Spiritual Jew), but I spend more time on this forum these days. You are on that other forum as well.

Are you seriously still questioning if we are the same person? What is wrong with you? You need professional help.

We do not believe that 1 Corinthians 15:50 is fulfilled, so why don't you try to stop misrepresenting our view all the time? It makes you look very ignorant. I agree. I believe the earth will be renewed (new earth) when Jesus returns (2 Peter 3:10-13) and we will inherit it for eternity. You...

Nothing wrong with being careful in your interpretation of scripture, but there's probably such thing as being too careful which can result in you not feeling sure about anything you believe. Anyway, enough about that. Back to Daniel 9:24-27. Do you believe that Christ's death was necessary in...

You don't think that the seventh trumpet is the third woe? It doesn't say that explicitly, I suppose, but it's clear that's the case when you see that the 3 woes correspond to the final 3 trumpets. Revelation 9:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the...