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Yes, you have the 7th trumpet sounding even before the 5th trumpet. I hope you don't expect to be taken seriously with this kind of nonsense. You are clearly just making scripture say what you want it to say. You make the numbering of the trumpets completely pointless.

But, it's just post-tribs that are the problem, right. You are totally fine with MA2444's style of posting?

After the 69th week means some time after the 69th week ends. That places it in the 70th week. I don't know why people who put a gap between the 69th and 70th weeks always try to act as if the word "after" means "at the end of". In no dictionary in the world does it mean that.

Doug, do you have to misunderstand everything you read and make a fool of yourself incessantly? Is that just something you have decided to do? Why didn't you just ask me the question "Watching for what?" and let me answer before saying the rest of your nonsense? What did Jesus say to watch...

This is what you're saying about posts basically saying we were possessed by evil spirits and serving Satan and other over the top things. You think we're being too sensitive by having a problem with those kinds of posts? There's something very seriously wrong with you and you need to seek...

It's how unsaved men talk. I'm not wasting any more time on you until you decide to grow up and stop being a childish, sexist fake tough guy.

I clearly do not do that, as everyone else but you can see. You clearly have no argument, as this post of yours proves.

Please expand on whatever it is you're saying here. You know that Revelation 11:15-18 is about the seventh trumpet, right?

Great response. Just as convincing as the rest of your weak arguments.

Yes, of course. Am I saying that 1 Corinthians 15:50 has been fulfilled? No, I am not. You have a reading comprehension problem. Do you not differentiate between the spiritual kingdom of God that we're in now and the full manifestation of the kingdom of God that will occur when Christ returns...

I'm not sure if you have one single belief that's true. You seem to be wrong about literally everything. Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the...

LOL. Give me a break. I can't take you seriously at all. You will go out of your way to twist any scripture to make it say what you want it to say and that's all we need to know about you.

Yep. Whatever. Let's move on from this topic. That's what I said. I didn't say they weren't alike at all. Good grief. Communicating with you is very painful. Sure, whatever. I don't really care what you want to call it. But, again, it does appear that Arminius himself believed in total...

It seems you actually have the 7th trumpet starting to sound even before the 5th trumpet starts. Is that correct? Obviously, that's complete nonsense, but I'll ask for clarification, anyway. How long after the 7th trumpet starts to sound do you think the 5th trumpet starts to sound?

So? That doesn't mean they can't be parallel to the trumpets. Read posts 32 to 34 and not the obvious similarities between each trumpet and vial. Why should anyone even pay any attention to anything you say. You have so little discernment, that you think WPM and I are the same person. You have...

He has none. He thinks the 7th trumpet starts sounding at the same time the 5th trumpet does, which is obviously complete nonsense. His timeline is completely messed up.

We're still on there and so are you, but the topics aren't as interesting there as they are here at this point, so I don't post there very often lately on the end times forum. I post some on other forums there related to other topics. It's christianforums.com I'm Spiritual Jew on there and he...

LOL. As calm as you want to be. Your exclamation points suggested that you weren't very calm and were completely overreacting to what I said. But, by all means, just have a meltdown about it if you want. I can't stop you. The multiple exclamation points suggested that you were overreacting to...

What is the reason that you had to be nasty in your response like this? You said you don't know how to reconcile it with a post-trib rapture, so I thought you were saying that because you see it as teaching a pretrib rapture instead. It wasn't clear that you have no opinion one way or another on...

Calm down. I was talking about what was being discussed today in particular. Based on what this thread is about, there's no reason to think that anyone here was saying there's no rapture at all, but rather are saying there is no pre-trib rapture in particular.