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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    Daniel 7 is not all in chronological order. You clearly have no understanding about Apocalyptic writing. Notice in Daniel 7:13-14 that he sees new visions that were not part of the vision he had seen previously. Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    This is what I've been trying to tell him. For the sake of argument, assume the following is meant to be taken literally. 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    Who inspired both Paul and John to write what they did? That is what matters here. Do you think that the Holy Spirit did not know at the time He inspired Paul to write 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 that He was also going to inspire John to write the book of Revelation? Is that just an idea that God...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    That's definitely a waste of time for you to tell me that since I never said otherwise.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    One last time. The context of the dead rising first in 1 Thess 4:14-17 is that they had to be resurrected first in order to be caught up together with those who are alive and remain as it should be obvious that they couldn't be caught up together with them without being resurrected first. That's...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    It's certainly related to that. I use scripture to interpret scripture and I accept what scripture teaches, which is that Christ's resurrection itself was the first resurrection. Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Do you see the great tribulation described in these passages that specifically refer to the day of the Lord? If so, where exactly? 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Can you show me where he answered my questions and addressed my points first? I should be expected to address his questions and points while he can just ignore mine? Do you own a New Testament? Can you explain why the New Testament scriptures don't teach what you think those OT passages teach...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    So, you expect me to address that when you don't bother addressing what I said first? That's not how this works. Address my points first and then I'll address that.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    Absolutely agree. This sums up the difference between the interpretive approach of amils like us and dispensationalists like him. The foundation of their doctrine is on a literal interpretation of some of the most difficult passages to interpret in all of scripture contained within highly...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    I'm not going to go into a lot of detail here right now because I've been responding to many posts already today, but I believe the seals, trumpets and bowls are all parallel to each other rather than it being a case of the seven seals followed by the seven trumpets followed by the seven bowls...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    You should ask yourself why you're not addressing what I said about this and why you're taking 1 Thessalonians 4:16 out of context? Are you afraid to address what I said about the context of that verse? Where in 1 Thess 4:14-17 do you see Paul saying that the dead in Christ will rise first...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Okay, this may explain why you can't even understand amil, regardless of whether you agree with it or not. It seems that you believe in soul sleep based on what you said here? Or maybe you believe in soul rest if you believe that the souls of the dead in Christ are conscious in heaven while...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    I didn't say it was, but I haven't seen you offer any alternative interpretation of the passage that you can reconcile with your premil view. Can you do that? I've seen in other posts of yours that you agree that it should be taken literally as burning up the entire planet, but why can't you see...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    What I believe is not just something that I believe, but many others do as well, so you are just not understanding what I believe for whatever reason. Do you not know what the ascension of Christ refers to? If so, that would boggle my mind. Acts 1:9-11 points out how He ascended to heaven long...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Yes, it does say that! It says the HOUR (singular) is coming when ALL of the dead will be raised. Then He clarified that some will be raised to eternal life and some to damnation. You change it to say 2 HOURS (plural) are coming when the dead will be raised instead.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    Not 1,000+ years apart! Again, Jesus said in John 5:28-29 that the HOUR is coming when all of the dead will be raised, with some being raised to eternal life and the rest to damnation. He didn't say the HOURS are coming when the dead will be raised as you believe. Why won't you address this point?
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    It's about having part in the first resurrection and scripture says that Christ's resurrection was the first resurrection. Is there more than one first resurrection? The first resurrection: Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    Where does it say they have bodies and had been raptured? John never said he saw anyone with bodies in heaven. He said he saw the souls of the dead in Christ there (Rev 6:9-11, Rev 20:4). The souls of all of the dead in Christ who are waiting for the redemption of their bodies. Are you making...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    That's why it's nice that scripture never teaches the nonsense of there being more than one coming of Christ in the future. You certainly are completely incapable of proving that as your ridiculous posts prove over and over again.