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  1. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    That idea is a Jewish idea crept into some denominations today. All those in Christ Jesus are His brethren. This should have been obvious by what Jesus said in Matthew 12. Christ's sheep represent His Church of all peoples and nations. Like He said in Matthew 25, and Paul said in Ephesians 1...
  2. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    If you mean a physical "spiritual body" with soul, yeah, but that's not a flesh and blood type body, but an angelic type body. Like Jesus said in Matt.22, those of the resurrection are as the angels of God in heaven. That spiritual body is not exposed until we put off our flesh. And it is a...
  3. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    Paul obviously knew enough about the existence of the two dimensions and two different bodies to say what he did in 2 Cor.12. Afterall, he specifically taught about the two bodies in defining the resurrection body of 1 Cor.15. So there's really no reason to think he meant something else when...
  4. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    John 5:28-29 reveals the "resurrection of damnation" comes forth also on the day of Christ's 2nd coming. Just the fact that Jesus mentioned a resurrection for them too reveals they also will have the "spiritual body", otherwise He lied, because that is exactly what the idea of resurrection...
  5. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    Somewhat, maybe. I do too, which was my point. His testimony sticks to what God's Word reveals too. Eccl.12:5-7, and Matt.10:28, and John 3, and 2 Cor.5, and 1 Cor.15, and 2 Cor.12, and Luke 16, all reveal the existence of the two separate bodies, belonging to two distinct and different...
  6. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    Satan's pit prison. Hades apparently has different levels. The terms like bottomless pit, the abyss, haides, etc., I see as simply names for Satan's place in the heavenly dimension. I definitely do not adhere to any idea that the abode of hell is underneath the earth nor any such idea as that...
  7. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    I love to think about our Heavenly Father's and His Son's future Kingdom, and the world to come. He actually told us quite a bit about it, but most of the time we pass over it. If you look at the 1 Cor.15:53 verse in the Greek, you'll find that Paul used 4 different Greek words about the...
  8. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    The millennium kingdom immediately begins on that day. The cleansing and building of the Millennial sanctuary in Jerusalem will also begin then.
  9. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    I don't see that as another event after His coming. The idea He says there for His sheep to come and inherit the kingdom prepared for them from the foundation of the world points directly to Christ's Church per Eph.1. Also, the goats are shown going in the lake of fire then. But that's not the...
  10. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    Not meaning to offend, but I find the majority of brethren haven't studied 1 Cor.15 very thoroughly. My understanding of the "spiritual body" of 1 Cor.15 is like Paul said, in the present tense, there is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body (1 Corinthians 15:44). Does Clint Walker's...
  11. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    This was in play, showing God caused Israel's blindness for His Purpose... Rom 11:7-10 7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded 8(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes...
  12. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    I see it as the fulfillment of the Isaiah 42:7 prophecy, the prison house being a symbol for the heavenly pit prison. Some doctrines of men assign those "spirits in prison" as being evil spirits, and that Jesus was only proclaiming His victory over them by that event. I don't agree with that...
  13. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    Yes, that's right, here is where Paul was pulling from about death being swallowed up in victory on that future day... Isa 25:6-8 6 And in this mountain shall the LORD of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on...
  14. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    That's the same event, the gathering of His sheep on His right hand vs. the goats (wicked) on the left. You do realize that He used the idea of sheep about His Church at times, right, like John 10 and John 21?
  15. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    When Lord Jesus returns... everyone will be changed to the "spiritual body". Apostle Paul said in 1 Cor.15 that as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Have the wicked borne the image of the earthy? Yes! They will also bear the image of the...
  16. Davy

    Who are the Saints?

    I don't hold to Catholic doctrines about the idea of saints, nor would I pray to any of them, which Lord Jesus showed us to Whom and how to pray.
  17. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    Well, yeah. But if Adam and Eve had not sinned in God's Garden, would there have been the need for Christ to be born of woman to die on the cross? That's kind of the category your question is in. Some might see it as invading God's space about His purposes.
  18. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    If you understand the fulfillment by Jesus of the Isaiah 42:7 prophecy per the "spirits in prison" of 1 Peter 3 and 4, then yes, they had to have been baptized (spiritually) into Jesus' death when they accepted Christ's preaching of The Gospel, and led them out of that prison house. Like He said...
  19. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    I have to ask a question in response, what do you think when Jesus did this for those of the Old Testament? Isa 42:6-7 6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 7 To open...
  20. Davy

    Church To Stay On Earth

    Ask our Heavenly Father about it through His Son. I can't make you 'see' what those Scriptures are about, even though they are plain to me, and I gave a brief description for each one. And you cannot allow preconceived denominational notions to interfere when you read it. You have to read as if...