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Text proof Jesus is not God as Rom 10:9 requires as a point of salvation that you believe God - meaning God in his wholeness, in his unitarian nature - raised Jesus from the dead. Misinterpretting John 1:1 all you want does not change this. Furthermore, you have to take John 1:1 from the...

LOL. Did his mother Mary call him to dinner that way? "The Word of God, dinner is ready." The claims just more and more preposterous.

Again, we've covered this. You are going beyond God's word, leaning on your own understanding of the doctrine of the trinity.

We've covered this numerous times. Words are WHAT's not WHO's.

Dualism. While you admit it does not always mean Jesus, you insist it means Jesus without qualification. And again, the Bible is not a dictionary. It does not define words. It must be very liberating to not be confined by: 1. Definition 2. Logic 3. Language Usage 4. Explicit Scripture.

No. 1st, the OP recognizes theos is not logos. Therefore, the literal reasoning of God is not literally God but figuratively a god. 2nd, the Bible is not a lexicon. It does not define words. Having said that, not every use of the word "word" in Scripture refers to Jesus. John 1:1-5 is one of...

Could or could not are potential. We aren’t talking about potential but actual. And there is no actual verse that says Jesus came in the form of an angel.

Jesus is not God. Jesus is a man. Perhaps man existed before our incarnation; so yes.. Doesn’t make us or Jesus God.

Mistranslation?

Turning this conversation to a serious matter, regarding our love for God and expertise in the subject matter, how to you broach the subject to those in the dark? For most of my life, I've relied on not throwing pearls before swine. In more recent years, I realize that is a bit of a crutch. I...

No. Jesus was praying to his God - who we relate to as Father, Jesus and us - in the Garden of Gethsemane.

In the 150+ pages this thread has gone on, I think it's been brought up a number of times that the wording of the premise under discussion could have been more precise.

Besides violating the 1C, If Jesus were God incarnate who merely took on the form of a man and only appeared to die, it has no theological significance at all, for God is all powerful and can do anything. 1 Timothy 2:5 (NLT) There is one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and...

And doesn't think Oneness Doctrine mean this same Holy Spirit is in us all, thereby making us gods?

I kind of wish such distinctions were available with one's name. "Christian" is often a bit too general. I can figure out Binartarian but don't grasp Amillennial as a major doctrinal point.

You find this? It implies the topic is subjective. Is that what you think, the nature of God is in the eye of the beholder? Hmmm. I never heard this. However, you probably know I somewhat diss the KJV. The reason is 21st century Americans don't speak Middle English well and are prone to...

Not quite what I said. Still, only God the Father is explicitly taught in Scripture. So, there is that.

On the contrary, I know how the subject is abused. Consider the meaning of Chancellor Palpatine telling Mace Windu, "I am the Senate?" The Executive representing the entirety of the representative legislative body cannot make literal sense. In fact, it does not make sense - unless one goes...

The only reason it sounds strange to our ears is the Christological indoctrination that there is only one true god (while not acknowledging there are many REAL lowercase gods). The trick is semantics, capitalization actually. It's like saying there is only one Oprah. Using the capitalized...

Not to hijack this thread to become personal, but I'll take that as a compliment. I am sure of myself - about a small number of things. I decided a long time ago to go deep about a few matters rather than wide about many. There is much I don't know or only have a very superficial understanding...