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  1. Wrangler

    A Form of godliness

    This does not = trinity.
  2. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    LOL If Jesus knows everything, how come he said God knows more than he does?
  3. Wrangler

    A Form of godliness

    Given that something is a secret is NOT evidence the secret is Jesus. :rolleyes:
  4. Wrangler

    A Form of godliness

    The Scripture you quote says, neither that Jesus is an angel or God. Don't you think it odd that if Jesus were God, he'd be masquerading as a mere angel?
  5. Wrangler

    Is the holy spirit a living being Equal to God?

    Lol. What rules of comprehension do you apply to God’s word? Jesus is not God but a man who died.
  6. Wrangler

    Is the holy spirit a living being Equal to God?

    The opposite is true. Son of God is who Jesus is, not God the Son as converses are not synonyms.
  7. Wrangler

    Is the holy spirit a living being Equal to God?

    The Father alone is YHWH. Anything else is a FALSE god. This is what Scripture explicitly says and there is no way around it. For us, there is one God, the Father. It doesn't mean anyone else is the one God but the Father.
  8. Wrangler

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    There would be ZERO exceptions, and NO arguments IF what you said was true. 24 This is why I said you will die with your sins unforgiven. If you don't have faith in me for who I am,[a] you will die, and your sins will not be forgiven.” 25 “Who are you?” they asked Jesus. Jesus answered, “I am...
  9. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    It's awesome how you ignore v5, which embraces adoptionism. God adopted Jesus as his son and us too. This is why the verse says "today" you have become my son. This was written after the resurrection, AFTER Jesus submitted to the will of his God, obedient onto death. Death is an act impossible...
  10. Wrangler

    Is Jesus 100% man and 100% God

    You know that the Sovereign God is bounded, right? @Rich R recently listed about 5 things that he cannot do with Scriptural references for each. And Jesus said that God is good. This is blasphemy even though it properly limits the bounds of God. In Islam, Allah is unbounded, and therefore...
  11. Wrangler

    Is Jesus 100% man and 100% God

    I've come to realize part of trinitarian indoctrination is the false idea that there is only one lord and only one god in reality. Capitalizing does not change that fact. The word "lord" is a title, which means what Peterlag indicated. There are dozens of lords in Scripture. The word "god" is...
  12. Wrangler

    Is the holy spirit a living being Equal to God?

    So, do you mean to say there is no symbolism in Scripture? Jack. Buddy. The Bible is one of the most figurative, symbolic books ever written. Now, I'm not denying there is literal truth in it. However, much of the message is conveyed through hyperbole and figuratively. For instance, when Jesus...
  13. Wrangler

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    It does't matter to them that Jesus did not teach the trinity. It does not matter to them that Jesus said only true worshippers, worship the Father, John 4:23. It doesn't matter to them that Jesus taught us to pray to a single God - who we relate to as Father. I suppose that's the thing about...
  14. Wrangler

    Unanswered Question Concerning Jesus' Deity

    Trinitarians do not want to differentiate between OF God (divine) and being God (deity). One poster claimed we are all God. When I said we are not our own Creator, he agreed. This reveals the rock, the foundation upon which trinitarianism is based; the rejection of logic, of the principle of...
  15. Wrangler

    A Form of godliness

    The refutation is seen in the questions you failed to answer. But that's typical of you Jack. Jesus is not God but a man, and certainly no kind of angel. It's so funny that trinitarians just make stuff up to fit their doctrine. Being a man, Jesus is no kind of angel. He is a man of God not an...
  16. Wrangler

    A Form of godliness

    Why must one speculate on the name of this particular angel? Why do you feel compelled to go outside of explicit Scripture on the name of all the unnamed angels?
  17. Wrangler

    A Form of godliness

    I anticipated tortured rationalization and you did not disappoint. Angels and prophets speak for God. It's what they do. The string of False Alternatives leading to an angel (explicitely said to NOT be Jesus in Hebrews) that must be Jesus is a flat out or clear contradiction. Just a point of...
  18. Wrangler

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    So, what's your conception of Judgement Day; that it's everyday?
  19. Wrangler

    Unitarianism vs Trinitarianism

    I know. I've seen that thread. Before I participate in such threads, I prefer to get a balanced analysis. This means the strengths and weaknesses of P v A. Obviously, that thread has already reached an opinion and I suspect there could be reasons to not abanon Premil doctrine. Thanks for the...
  20. Wrangler

    A Form of godliness

    Where does the bible say the "Angel of the LORD" is Jesus incognito (or pre-carnate Jesus or words to that affect)?