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That is what satan wants, to take the simplicity in christ and make it complicated, confusing and not understandable..

Thats not a work in the biblical sense. not sure why you are trying to make it one

Yes, they do, and in the end they will fail yes, jesus paid with his blood selfishness, pride what do you question about it?

Its free. because you can't pay for it If you could pay for it. it would not be free. the source of the debt is our sin the penalty of sin is death, the gift of God is eternal life

I think you are looking at it all wrong All the world is condemned. We have sinned and we must all pay the debt we all owe God The gift of God is to save us from this guilt and condemnation. Because we can not pay this debt ourself If you reject. you do not suffer the consequence of rejecting...

lol.. No. I did not deny his words. I just interpret his words correctly You pic one sentence out of everything he has said while on earth and make a sacrament out of it. Yet denying the fact as I showed. that john 6 and the lords supper have two different contexts. Feel free to eat that...

You say you got it. But did you? Once again, In john 6. Jesus said if you eat the BREAD that I give you. You will never hunger, and never thirst. He called it the food that endures forever. Do you understand that concept? The word endure in the greek is menousan - it means to remain, to stay...

What that shows is Peter understood what Jesus said. Jesus said, it is the spirit who gives life. The WORDS I SPEAK are spirit and they are life Peter responded, Where can we go. YOU HAVE THE WORDS That give eternal life.. That is the bread from heaven, That is the flesh and Blood (the...

Lets say this If someone comes and says eat this and you will live forever then next week. That person says here eat this again. You would call them a deceiver. Yet that is exactly what you are doing with Jesus words in John 6 John 6 is not the lords supper. The lords supper is a...

Paul is talking about the lords supper. Which jesus said do often in remembrance of me Jesus in John 6 said whoever eats will never die. 2 completely different things. Now think about this/ What did jesus said in John 6. You do not see because you do not believe. What did he say in John 3...

did jesus say only if they participate worthily? Did he say they had to keep eating it? Jesus said whoever eats will never die. He did not say whoever sticks with him or whoever does not. Its why the Eucharist and Jhn 6 are incompatible

See the word forever? does anyone who eats the eucharistic bread life forever? Jesus said if you eat you will not die. he also compared it to manna, he said they ate manna and are dead because the food did not make whoever ate it live forever.. we are talking about eternal life here. not...

Jesus did not say it would give life He said whoever ate would Never hunger Never thirst Live forever Never die Be rasied on the last day Has eternal life. There is a huge difference between mere life and eternal life You can take the eucharist and still die.. If it did all Jesus said it...

why then does the eucharist not Give what Jesus himself said it would give. why eat the eucharist like the jews ate manna. and still they died?

I did not know the catholic church taught we were saved by the Holy Spirit burying us into christ?

so he recieved that in the catholic church? How was that accomplished?

No actually it is not. If it was water, it would say baptize in christ in water. It does not Baptize ceroms from a greek word. it is not even a native english word. it means to immerse, or place into. to overwhelm when it says baptize in christ. Christ is what we are baptized into. not water.,

Like the tax collector I am saved the moment I call out to God and ask for his salvation..That is confessing to God the lord..

romans 6: 3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of...

exactly!