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If the Scripture evidence that Jesus is God which I and others here have shown won't convince you, then rest assured you WILL believe when Jesus comes. Then you can push your doubt and false twisting of the Scriptures to Him personally.

It's right there in 1 Thessalonians 4:16, the raising of the dead in Christ. That resurrection does not happen prior to the tribulation.

Waste of time arguing over this, you need to believe what is written. And the fact that Jesus gathers His Church on the last day of this present world is direct evidence of who He promised would reign with Him for the 1,000 years as priests and kings (Rev.5:9-10).

I understand what your saying, but that's merely a pop tradition of men you're stating, and not what the actual John 5:28-29 Scripture is showing. It is showing the wicked dead are raised on the same day as that "resurrection of life" when Jesus comes.

Too late. GOD has ALREADY proven it Himself, in His Word of Truth. Thank you for identifying your refusal to believe it as written. We now know you follow what the Pharisees thought about it too.

Armageddon happens on the last day too, yes. And that is AFTER the tribulation. NONE of the Scriptures point to His coming PRIOR to the tribulation, and that's the point.

No, you have simply deceived yourself. And it appears to be coming from your theory about the time of God's consuming fire. You've built a false wall all around that idea. And that's why you now cannot even recognize the coming of Christ and gathering of the Church in 1 Thessalonians 4, a very...

Well, yes and no. The discussion I've been having is about what Apostle Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15 of what type of body the resurrection is. Paul taught that those alive on that day will be 'changed'. He taught the resurrection body is to a body of incorruption, what he called a "spiritual...

What Apostle Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15 that I quoted is not a religious spin. What you say is the attempt at a religious spin with denying what Paul taught. The resurrection is to a "spiritual body", the "image of the heavenly", a "quickening spirit", just as Paul said. 1 Cor 15:45 45 And...

That some of the saints will be delivered up and suffer, during the tribulation, not all the Church will suffer death, otherwise there would be no rapture by Christ of the Church on the same day as the raising of the dead. Did the Pre-tribulationalists forget to teach you that the resurrection...

Here's a summary of what I'm trying to ask in my OP. The saints still alive on earth on the day of Christ's 2nd coming per 1 Thess.4 are "caught up" to Jesus. They are not resurrected like the 'asleep' saints who had already died will be. So WHAT KIND OF BODY will those "caught up" be given...

If being given eternal Life through Christ has to wait until the end of His future 1,000 years reign, then that would mean there is no such thing as a "first resurrection" like Rev.20 declares. You're just not reading the Scripture... Rev 20:6 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the...

What Paul taught about the resurrection body in 1 Corinthians 15:50 is only a START! I haven't even gotten to the part where Paul also showed the resurrection is the "image of the heavenly" right before that 50th verse! 1 Cor 15:49-50 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall...

Then declare what Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:50 to be true. (But I know you won't, because you'd rather tell a lie.) 1 Cor 15:50 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. KJV

Yes, I understand that. No problem. Like I said in my last post, I'm speaking of the "resurrection of damnation" which is about the raising of the wicked dead on the day of Christ's return along with the "resurrection of life". This per John 5:28-29. That's right, but that doesn't erase what...

More lies, that is. Do you not believe what Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:50 about the resurrection body? The Old Testament does not give that detail about the resurrection body that Apostle Paul gave in 1 Corinthians 15. Nowhere does the Old Testament declare the resurrection is to a...

No I'm not. You're just making up lies to try to get around what Apostle Paul declared about the resurrection in 1 Corinthians 15:50. Why don't you fess up and admit Paul is correct like he said there, as I agree with Apostle Paul. So truly, it is you... that is calling Apostle Paul a liar.

Make no mistake, Jesus of Nazareth said He is God in the Scriptures. Not only did He say it, but The Father said it also. Isa 7:14 14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. KJV Matt 1:22-23 22 Now all...

Yes. No. Christ returns only one time, at the end of the tribulation to gather His Church. That is when the resurrection will happen, and not before. No uncertainty. The OT saints are resurrected on the last day of this world just like all others, as written in Rev.20 about the "first...

No, I am not denying Christ's resurrection. I simply don't agree with your assigning the resurrection body to be a flesh body of corruption, which Apostle Paul made clear in 1 Corinthians 15:50, which you have denied.