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  1. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Thanks for identifying your allegiance with the old beliefs of Judaism on what the resurrection is, showing you don't heed what The New Testament teaches.
  2. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    You're only making excuses to not believe Jesus is God. Hebrews 1:8 is a direct statement of The Father calling Jesus "O God", even talking about Christ's future eternal reign upon His throne. It's unmistakable that He is calling Jesus as God. The Hebrews 1:9 verse in no way modifies or changes...
  3. Davy

    Guide To The Post Tribulation

    I think it's very logical, and... sensible. The reason is because it is God's written Word. What you have failed to do is to see the forest, because you've focused too much on the trees. It takes The Holy Spirit for it all to be put together in the mind. Just study of letters only won't get it...
  4. Davy

    Day of Christ's Coming: Both Resurrection Types Happen

    Apostle Paul in 1 Thess.4 said Jesus will bring those 'asleep' saints with Him (1 Thessalonians 4:13-14). Then Apostle Paul showed that those of us still alive on earth on that day will be "caught up" to the clouds to Jesus (and those asleep saints JESUS BRINGS WITH HIM.) 1 Thessalonians...
  5. Davy

    Day of Christ's Coming: Both Resurrection Types Happen

    That's simply not Scriptural. The resurrection for those in Christ is... to the putting on immortality. Apostle Paul showed this emphatically in 1 Corinthians 15:50-54.
  6. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Excuse me for butting in but... God made it plain enough in His Word showing that Jesus Christ is also God. The 'begotten' idea is merely an application about Jesus as God being born in the flesh through woman's womb. Heb 1:1-8 1:1 God, Who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time...
  7. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    The Genesis 2 idea that God breathed into Adam's flesh the 'breath of life' and Adam became a living soul is not all God's Word has to say about how God created us. 2 Cor 5:1-4 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not...
  8. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Sorry, there is NO WAY in Scripture to prove that the resurrection is to another flesh and bone body. This is why Apostle Paul told us that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, neither does corruption inherit incorruption. Apostle Paul would not go against our Lord Jesus Christ: 1...
  9. Davy

    Day of Christ's Coming: Both Resurrection Types Happen

    That the alive saints on earth are "caught up" to Jesus on the day of His 2nd coming is written in 1 Thessalonians 4. It is unmistakable. Also written there in 1 Thessalonians 4 is that the 'asleep' saints that have died, Paul said Jesus will bring with Him. Paul stressed that point to the...
  10. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    It's a popular Church tradition to treat those "dead" of Rev.20:5 as being a second resurrection at the end of the 1,000 years to stand Judgment. However, Jesus showed us the wicked dead are raised on the same day the "resurrection of life" happens, per John 5:28-29. So where is the John 5...
  11. Davy

    Are the Caught Up Saints Part of the Resurrection?

    In 1 Corinthians 15, Apostle Paul is describing with what kind of body the resurrection is. 1 Cor 15:35 35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? KJV And he said the resurrection is to a "spiritual body"... 1 Cor 15:42-44 42 So also is the...
  12. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Possibly. But I'm still trying to get you to look at what condition those of the "resurrection of damnation" will be in on they day of Christ's return to start His 1,000 years reign.
  13. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Sorry brother, I cannot accept that Jesus bled out idea. And indeed His flesh body may have, but we aren't told that in God's Word. The Acts 2:27 verse that The Father would not allow Christ's body to see corruption is all I need on that. It reveals Christ's flesh body was transfigured, which...
  14. Davy

    What About The Resurrection at Christ's coming?

    What's the correct scenario... 1. Only Christ's martyrs that were killed for The Word of God and not accepting the mark of the beast are resurrected on the day of Christ's 2nd coming. This suggests only those martyrs in Christ have resurrection bodies, which would be only 'some' of the...
  15. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    On the day of Christ's 2nd coming, right?
  16. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Yes, we both agree on that. But what I'm trying to get you to recognize is that there will be a "resurrection of damnation" too, which is the idea of the wicked dead being made alive too by Christ at His coming, per John 5:28-29. I know the idea of a resurrection of the wicked dead at the end...
  17. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Let's not bypass that, "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." You may not understand it, but that is comparing Paul's resurrection idea of "corruptible" putting on "incorruption". That applies to the "resurrection of damnation" also, otherwise theirs wouldn't be a...
  18. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    Yes, that Scripture clearly explains what happens at flesh death, but your interpretation does not. Per Jesus in Matthew 10:28... Matt 10:28 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell...
  19. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    I think you're missing the point of the raising of the dead to a body of incorruption, because the wicked dead get a resurrection too. The body of incorruption Paul spoke of is simply the "image of the heavenly", meaning of the heavenly dimension. When Jesus returns, the heavenly dimension is...
  20. Davy

    'Death is swallowed up in victory' -When?

    And the way you ATTACKED me showed you believe the resurrection is to another flesh body of corruption. So are you changing your mind now? I kind of doubt it. I think you are still stuck in a fleshy understanding about a literal resurrection of the flesh. Well no, what He said to His disciples...