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Technically the Schoolmen and Melanchthon were post-Patristic, but I take your general point. Often styles of doing theology matter more than people realize, also...

My reading is that the one who had no root, never had true salvation in the first place.

@Naomi25 A good principle is indeed found in 1 Thessalonians 5.21: "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." :)

@Naomi25 I do like Biblical and contextual word studies and historical theology - learning what was believed by whom and when...rather than some of implications of systematic theology, which can develop into reading someone's system into Scripture: and it's interesting that Melanchthon and...

@Naomi25 So you went with her to support her and hold her hand? sounds like mom was satisfied with her determination and her being very pleased with it...:)

@Naomi25 I always like a hermeneutic approach that takes the reader where Scripture by the Spirit graciously leads - this is true exegesis - rather than reading into Scripture what someone else's system may be - this is eisegesis...

@Naomi25 Oh she did it! :) So were you at first a bit shocked?

@Naomi25 I do appreciate his hymns, anyway; and as you may guess also I do appreciate the dispensational distinctives which he also pointed out between Israel and the church in Scripture!

My apologies; fixed this to Matthew 23.20-21.

Matthew 23.20-21 This is not saving faith in Christ that is in view.

@2nd Timothy Group That, too...

@2nd Timothy Group You're probably thinking of Ezekiel 16.12...? The passage seems to be a picture of imputed righteousness.

@2nd Timothy Group Thanks for your vote. Actually opened ears in the KJV language of Psalm 40 does refer to Hebrew: digged, i.e., pierced, in reference to the bondservant ear piercing.

@2nd Timothy Group Oh no I didn't, but wish I had...

@2nd Timothy Group "All of grace, yes, grace surpassing, Such a portion to bestow, But the love, all knowledge passing, Grace has taught us now to know. Love that bore the stripes and sorrow, Love that suffered on the Tree, Love that shares the bright tomorrow, With the loved ones, you and me."