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What is worse. a person who claims to be righteous, but compared to Gods holy standard is not or a person who admits he is short, but relies on Gods grace and continues to walk toward the prize?

do you really think you are so Holy God think you are great? you know nothing about God and hi righteous standard if you think this

Amen sadly some reject that idea

go do what? Try to earn my salvation, thats impossible. I am amazed you read my post, and then said go do it, without knowing where I spoke from. titus 3…not by works of righteousness which we have dove, but by his mercy, he saved us…… There nothing we can do my freind You can’t work for grace

ah, so are you making excuses for not obeying Jesus in all things? Since that is what you claimed others did

sadly he will not hear. He does not understand Hebrews was written to the people who were trying to go back to the law. and his pleading with them to not go back to the law because the law will never save you. so he totally ignores context.

then no one is saved. and we are working towards salvation by doing works of righteousness.. Not by Gods mercy..

people need to try to interpret Rom 9 correctly and in context. Paul is referencing the OT potter and clay comments which God made. if we read the comments, We can see what paul was saying concerning Israel (the context of romans 9) Jer 18: The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord...

Actually we overcome through love, we love because he first loved us If you are required to walk as a requirement, then it is not of Grace it is of works.. you can;t mix grace and works, they cancel each other out.. These are pauls words not mine the narrow gate is not to strive to be...

The NIV is a very works based oriented bible,. it really pushes the water baptism issue as salvic

Your right the standard remains perfection That's why it is of grace through faith and not of ourselves.. it is the gift of God That standard would condemn you and me right here right now where we stand! Yes, we fulfill the law when we love the lord our God and our neighbor as or above...

You can't bear fruit unless you are born again Don't you think we need to get people saved first. then worry about them bearing fruit? That's what the new covenant is all about. Its about the fact the no one could keep the old. because the requirements were so steep (perfection) and how we are...

Are you perfect? Have you achieved sinlessness?

God tells us to do this very thing

when people start falsely accusing other people. it usually means their argument has hit a wall. and they have nothing left.

Yeah we are done I stand by my word. You are a fatalist. the Jew could quote the OT verbatim, They crucified Christ with all of that knowledge. Just because someone posts a bunch of scripture (myself included) does not mean they have an understanding of what said scripture says. One thing to...

So what is your perception of the matter?

Christ is sitting at the right hand of God He said he had to depart. So he could send the comforter The HS is here.. Christ is yet to come.. He will judge. When he returns to earth. Because mankind has so destroyed his creation. If he does not come, no flesh will survive

This is false. Adam had free will. Everyone does the mere fact Adam was given a choice. Proves he had free will

If adam had no free will. Then by defenition God forced him to sin then by defenition. God could not punish Adam, because Adam did What god wanted him to do..