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Double negative. The burden on proof is the one making the positive claim.

Going for the psychological attack … Seeing things that aren’t there is not a sign of mental health, my friend. Simply put there is no trinity verse, no Jesus is God and you’re damned if you don’t believe it, verse. OTOH, there are many verses that say you are not to believe the trinitarian...

It’s like you are in complete denial of agency. V1 explicitly identifies Jesus NOT as God incarnate but the son of god. Other verses call this same son of god a servant of god. You suppose there is a superseding contradiction in the very next verse. Imagine you are reading monotheist text and...

LOL I just referenced a verse where he referred to his God 4 times. What does that tell you, other than he is not God?

No. The real passion for the trinity is the man-is-god thesis. You have merely moved the goal posts to a bi-une God that is completely lacking a verse like above. Jesus is NOT God. The demonstrable evidence of this fact is that Jesus died.

Well, your sentence is barely readable to me. Let me say it simply. I have doubt, uncertainty. Somewhat hostile for you to come back with me being dead wrong. We can delve into why I have doubt if you think it would be fruitful.

Talk about a distraction. Despite your apparent hostility, we seem to be more on the same page than not. Not refusing. Just wanted to establish the context. Not sure why it matters who Jesus is referring to since Jesus is NOT God? ‘The one’ being God’s Anointed, God’s agent. 14:7, through...

No you don’t. You don’t care at all about the explicit word of God as the following shows. QUOTE="RLT63, post: 1445399, member: 18983"]But they are not mutually exclusive The contempt for the explicit word of God is shocking. GOD: You shall not murder. YOU: they are not mutually exclusive...

Believing it is the key to salvation, along with one other thing. Romans 10:9 says believing God - in his unitarian nature - raised Jesus from the dead. Not "the Father" but God - in his unitarian nature - raised Jesus from the dead is the condition of salvation. Powerful stuff. if you confess...

What do you know about proof by contradiction and mutual exclusiveness? Who is it that overcomes the world except the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? 1 John 5:5 It does not say salvation is by believing Jesus is God but believing Jesus is the son of God. I believe that Jesus is...

Hey, I can be right - that Jesus is not God - for many a reasons. :p

Except those that agree with you, right? :p

Totally delusional. Please cite the verse that reads something like The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit who are co-equal, co-substantial and co-eternal - and if you do not believe this, you cannot be saved but are damned to hell forever. Then, I'll concede.

LOL. The fact that the trinity is not in the Bible, the fact that that not one Scripture verse directly says Jesus is God is not a big fat excuse. It's a simple fact. Sure. As soon as you admit the trinity is not in the Bible, admit that not one Scripture verse directly says Jesus is God.

We are not communicating. What books are included in that list; the Maccabees?

Do you notice how all your questions are to skirt around the fact that "Jesus is God" is not in Scripture. You always have to read into it and ask such questions that you'll undoubtedly be unhappy with my non-trinitarian answers.

The Bible is being made into an idol. It is only parchment. The Bible is a collection of writing men compiled. You will not find in the Bible God identifying precisely what encompasses his word, what books to leave in, what books to leave out.

See post #22.

So, they myopically define Gnosticism to be a 1st century heresy AS IF they are not guilty of invoking special knowledge now.

I do but you keep talking about Isaiah 9:6.