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  1. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    please stick to the text. If you can not show me in the text where you are seeing this, Then you can not prove your point.. Where is this in the text. I posted the whole text to you. If what you say is true, it should be EASY for you to show me.
  2. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    sadly people want to follow a flawed english text. (any english language text is flawed because the english is a weak language as compaired to the greek.. And then will attack you when you see something and go deeper to find the real meaning.
  3. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    well to you I am sure it does not. To the average reader who reads a text. when they see a sequence of events, then sees the words THEN, they understand the what comes AFTER the word THEN follows what comes before.
  4. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    My friend, You are the one doing this. THEN (after these things) language is clear. we can look at the language and see what is going on. I not only looked at rev 19 but I look at the first part of rev 20 and kept reading. so I do not pull something out of context. You keep trying to tell me...
  5. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Your right it does. But john did not leave us with a broad spectrum. He specifically told yus 1. What would happen 2. Why 3. What it is Your trying to pull a passage a part. and refusing to look at the passage in context. and trying to tell me I am spinning and not looking. You still have...
  6. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    UNTIL. the 1000 years are fulfilled. WHat happens after this? Satan is BOUND He is SHUT UP He is PLACED IN PRISON That means he can DECIEVE NO ONE. My friend, Satan was just as hindered in the OT as he is in the new. Many gentiles came to christ. Binding does NOT refer to the gospel...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I am gonna be honest my friend. I do not see how you can read what I posted. what John said, and still continue to deny that these things happen at one period at the end. rev 20: Then (OR AFTER THESE THINGS) I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    you do realize in the original language. the word sin there is an active present sense. It is the same as saying those who live in sin. practice sin. lives like the world. All things we are told of those who are not born again. It does not say that those who are born again will never sin again.
  9. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    while I agree. that is not what the passage says 1. He is bound. He can't MOVE or roam the world, this will last for 1000 Years He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 2. He is in the bottomless pit. Basically think of...
  10. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    yet you can not answer about 1 passage My friend, Your the one who claims we misinterpret rev 20. If you can;t back up your claim by showing us in context what rev 20 really says, AS WE HAVE, then you have not proven your point. it is not a tactic. the only tactic happening here is you...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Satan today is decieving people from seeing Gods truth.. From self deception. to decieving nations to scare people from coming to the truth for fear if beheading or execution. can't you see that? what does this have to do with me? The passage said he can not decieve the NATIONS.. I am just...
  12. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    70 AD was not only prophesied (the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.) And was promised that it would happen if Israel sinned (lev 26) But that does not mean it was the "great tribulation that has not been seen since the begining of the world or will...
  13. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The Bible tells us what he is bound from He is bound from decieving the nations. There is no mention of the gospel. The gospel was sent to the world Not just nations. We shoudl not add to the word of God. If we have to add to it to get our point across. We should second guess what we think.
  14. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I have only been given you the scripture since we started talking. And you have not once spoken of it. You keep trying to take me everyplace else. I gave you multiple chances to show me in the scripture your point of view. You have yet to do it. Now your playing as if I am making an...
  15. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I am mentioning the great tribulation of Matt 24. Also called the time of jacobs trouble in the OT. I never said anything about tribulation’s.. Lol. There was no great tribulation in 70 AD. And All flesh was not threatened in 70 ad in jerusalem or any place else in the world. The technology...
  16. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Lol.. People do it all the time my friend. I have heard it for years. My friend, I am just stating what I have seen for years. Please don’t try to tell me I have not seen something I have. We see it in here Premills see satan being bound as a literal event which happens AFTER the beast and...
  17. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No I am saying prophecy is not something we should spiritulize. That is what parabolic language does. it uses symbols to represent a spiritual truth] Prophecy is God foretelling future events. If the event does not occure. Then the prophet is said to be a false prophet. And he is not from God.
  18. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Sin is a word taken from the greek word hamarte. It means to miss the mark Sin is also called a tresspass whether your tresspass against God or man. Failing to love is to break the law. Excuse it however you want. It is a sin, you MISS THE MARK
  19. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I disagree. One is claiming that the event will happen. the other is as much as saying it represents a spiritual truth, it is not a literal event.