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  1. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Then it is meaningless. and we can make it say anything we want. with no means ot proving who is right. And I disagree, it is all literal. It may use symbols to represent literal events. but we need to determine what literal event will take place. how much symbolism in daniels prophecy...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    are you so foolish, having begun in the spirit are you now being perfected in the flesh. have you suffered so many things in vein if it was in vein Paul called into questions some people salvation. as they were attempting to add works of the flesh to the gospel of grace.
  3. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    take your time bro. don't sweat it.
  4. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    so. no mention of sin. or the possibility.. Good day sir. You have nothing for me
  5. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I have not avoided anything You on the other hand have avoided looking at the actual passahe of scriptire we are supposed to be discussing actually you have nothing of value. You can;t look at the passage and prove your point. You have to go everywhere else in an attempt to prove your right...
  6. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The ot spoke of be born of a virgin - that literally came true The ot said they will divide his garments. - that literally came true The ot said that after 69 weeks of years. messiah will be killed - that literally happened the ot said there will be 4 gentile kingdoms. Called them parts of a...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    yeah, those of us who believe eternal life is eternal. That he who began a good work WILL complete it. That when God said we will never die God means it. When God said we have the spirit of the seal as a guarantee or pledge. he meant it To all legalists. we are merciless God will be merciless...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Is this your catholic answer? You can not answer my question in the passage, so you resort to the private interpretation argument? there is nothing symbolic about this passage. God said it will happen. If you want to take it as symbolic then feel free. I believe when God says these things...
  9. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    for those who are as frustrated as I am by this guys continued to reject what the prophet said. He said that people can sin. and not only said they can, but said if they do. they will be punished. Yet he wants us all to think this is meant for eternity future. not Gods rule here on earth...
  10. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    I am sorry, But that would be an incorrect assessment of what I think Bless you
  11. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    good day sir The living waters will flow from jerusalem. after jesus lands and the mountain is tore in too O am not denying that Your denying God said people CAN SIN, and they ill be punished if they do. again, I am done with your nonsense. after years of trying to discuss with you. I have...
  12. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    when God says something will happens in hears. He is not speaking symbolically. If he did. Then no one could use that prophecy to prove what he said is true. you could make it say anything. What happened at the time of righting means nothing. God said 144000 from each tribe will do something...
  13. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You made a remark to me and said my question was answered in that post I was not discussing the present kingdom. I pray now you see why I said your post did not answer the comment I made.
  14. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    I disagree a person can be without sin for a sustained period of time.. How many times in a day do we fail to love or serve self instead of others. As for what John said, he wrote to a people who had people try to say they had no sin. this is where this comes from.
  15. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    the discussion we are having is about the future kingdom. That is why I am discussing it.
  16. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Thats not the purpose of prophecy. the purpose of prophesy is there so those who DO see it. will know that the god of the boble spoke it. and because of it turn to him We can't change Gods word my friend Yes he did so the AOD happens then 3.5 years later christ returns. everyone will know...
  17. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    @Marty fox I corrected my quoting error. please forgive me It says more than this my friend. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. ww1 and ww2 made what happened in ad 70 look like a walk...
  18. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    denial Good day my friend. I am done playing kids games..
  19. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    post 545 represents the church age. not the future kingdom Why do you refuse to look at the post and passage I offered and refuse to answer my question?