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  1. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work. 2 Timothy 1:9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    that says continue in faith. Not continue in works. Not everyone has true saving faith. Those who have mere believe will not continue in faith. they will walk away. And John said they were never of us. if they were. they never would have left.
  3. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    That is hades sir. Hell is where satan and his angels go. And those who are found not written in the book of life. Believers do not go to hades, they go to paradise. To be absent from the body is to be present with the lord as the good book says. Thats only for believers not non believers...
  4. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    He is no better than the jews who could not understand it either. He does not understand Grace, He seems to thing grace can be bought with works. Paul made it clear. NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE….but by his mercy Paul spoke of any good deed. And righteous deed. Any work...
  5. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    Make no mistake, no one will make it to heaven BECAUSE they worked. Our works are a byproduct of being saved. Nt the means by which we are saved. The law should have taught you this. God as much told Israel and the world. If you want to be righteous and come to me by your own works. This is the...
  6. Eternally Grateful

    National Covenant

    They have been being punished since Babylon, because they did not obey Gods commands, and played with idols. That is why they have been under Gentile rul since then, Even in the time of Christ they were under Gentile rule (rome) and it will remain until the time of the gentile is completed and...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    National Covenant

    The first covenant was the abrahamic covenant. The mosaic covenant was not part of that covenant, But in that covenant was given provisions for Israel to be blessed bu the part of the first covenant which related to them and only them Lev 26.. They are being punished today still because of...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    National Covenant

    Paul told them and us the law was to lead them and us to christ. After that, the law is no longer needed. The law never saved anyone, that was their mistake and why they rejected jesus. I agree, forgiveness is always available. But Gods covenant with his chosen people and their city will...
  9. Eternally Grateful

    National Covenant

    You or correct. The covenant with Israel through abraham will not fail. Paul said all Israel will be saved when the redeemer returns. He warns us gentiles not to boast in pride.. thinking God is done with them
  10. Eternally Grateful

    National Covenant

    That covenant has not failed, and it is still in effect. You should study Lev 26 and all the OT prophecy of what will happen when (not if) isreal repents
  11. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    Sorry Bro. God gave the law to lead us to christ as Paul said. Becaise it proves everyone a sinner, and as paul scripture pretty such says, Shuts there mouth, Because all are guilty before God The law is only done away if you have come to Christ. If your trying to work your way to heaven, you...
  12. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    its sad people mess up positional sanctifiaction, or being IN CHRIST, with conditional sanctification, or christian growth, and declaring our positional sanctification is dependent on conditional Thats an impossible task. Christ was perfect. that is required if we are to be positionally...
  13. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    still do not get it Moses said cursed is everyone who does not obey every word. Have you met that standard, are you righteous according to that standard. or are you cursed? there is no inbetween
  14. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    When I say believer, I am talking a true believer, not a make believer A make believer will fall away.
  15. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    This is what ages me know you do not believe God and his word 1. God said 1 sin is all it takes.. How many sins have you committed? 2. Anyone who says they do not deserve hell does not understand God period. I have heard you are Jason from the old christian chat? Is this true. if so. i am...
  16. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    believers are not forced your right. they are new creatures. a dog returns to his vomit (sin) because he is a dog. He was never created new in christ a believe is new. Sin is poison to him now. he is also chastened by God. A can not nor does he want to live as he did before. Either way...
  17. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    Or we can look to the greek and see what is actually being said. The KJV is not perfect. even if it is. It proves I BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF GOD TO CHANGE YOU FALSLY ACCUSED ME OF THE OPPOSITE own up to it man. [qipte] The key to understanding 1 John 3:9 is realizing that this "does not...
  18. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    what is the penalty for failing t live up to that standard? Do you own up to that?
  19. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    dude, unless you repent of falsly accusing me, I will not longer respond to you. you accused me of saying a christian is not fully and radically changed AFTER I posted john in saying the total opposite. Funny how you totally ignore that post and skipped over it. Did you think I was going to...
  20. Eternally Grateful

    The Popular False Justification and False Sanctification View Today.

    Then these things are true 1. We do not have eternal life. We have conditional life 2. We are not sealed with the spirit UNTIL the day of redemption, we are only sealed conditionally and as long as we continue to live up to Gods standard, and do not fall 3. We do not have hope in God we must...