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People can’t get out of their own way and just let God save them

There is no such thing as faith only you don’t CLAIM you trust someone then NEVER do what they ask that’s fraudulent faith or mere belief. Which never saved anyone

Sounds like those who did n judgement day claim all these works and Jesus says he never knew them (never saved) or James where they claim to have faith but in reality it is just belief. They have no actual faith proven by fact they have no works

Ya gotta love how people just focus on a few verses. And reject the whole of what is being said.

Paul also called them babes. They were sanctified (justified) but hey, I guess if you think the moment you are saved you become perfect in everything, Then I do not really know what else to say.. I can't help you. and you can't help me. So maybe time to move on.

So your a car? Or are you a new child, who comes out as a baby. and spend your whole life growing? Why did paul call the corinthian church babes, if they were perfectly mature christiand who di dnot need to grow Why are we told to grow in truth and knowledge I am not sure what bible you...

So your not in Christ? (positional sanctification) Seems like you just want to argue. Believe whatever you want my friend. I just pray you come to your senses about your sin soon.

once again, there is positional sanctification. we are sanctified then their is christian growth or conditional sanctification. As shown all through the NT. A babe in christ is not as sanctified as an adult in Christ. why you would think otherwise is beyond me. CHristian grown is ongoing and...

There is an issue with this thinking It says the work of perfecting forever is completed now. Not in the future when we die. and the act of sanctification is ongoing

Oh I did did I? No. I actually look up the greek words. Then instead of just looking up the definition. I looked up how they was written..I actually have a very good origional language library, You should not assume things my friend.. I made the case, whether you buy it or not is not on me...

that is a bad translation and does not fit the greek Unless it, like perfected, Made holy or sanctified is perfect active indicative (a completed action) it is not yet completed..

Made holy fails also it would be more accurate to say ongoing or being made holy present tense passive is the word used. at any time in the present, God is passivly sanctifying us..

Notice how you just skipped over the actual greek words used. I guess you did not like that they proved you wrong..

if we were talking about eating the flesh and blood, You may have a point, but we are not..

actually it is from the NKJV the word perfected is perfect, active indicative, a completed action the word sanctified is present passive, it is in the present time (ongoing) action of God acting on us to sanctify us. Unlike perfected, which is a completed act. Your english bible has failed...

There are no jews in the new covenant Romans 9:24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? Romans 3:29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, there is...

John 17:3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Titus 1:2 in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised...

I gave you mu thoughts Are you ever going to tell me why Paul and Jesus lied?

Yep. As does every other person I have met. You do it also, you just deny it. You can claim you have no sin all you want. I will never believe it..

lol Yes, we are positionally sanctified. Also called justified. Also called being in christ. But at the same time we are being sanctified. Its all right here in Hebrews Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. I am perfected forever. While...