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  1. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Many people act as a savior. First responders, military allies, financial donors, etc. The difference is that God chose Jesus to be the agent of God saving us. It does not make Jesus God. Please explain why it is that Scripture explicitly juxtaposes God with Jesus in many verses, e.g., Jesus is...
  2. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    What Scripture verse says that?
  3. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    You are aware that this is not true, right? God delegated this power to Jesus, who in turn, delegated it to the Apostles.
  4. Wrangler

    OSAS Revamps it's Image: Not Sinners nor Saints

    LOL. Sons are created, by definition. It's such a basic conceptual problem of contradiction. Scripture says Jesus is a created being by identifying him as a son. Sons are created beings. The trinity is not in the Bible, not the word and not the concept. Keep that in mind when using the notion...
  5. Wrangler

    OSAS Revamps it's Image: Not Sinners nor Saints

    The precise opposite is the case. Words are WHAT's not WHO's. The entire reason you put all your investment in imposing trinitarian interpretation onto unitarian text is because there is no direct trinitarian verse. You have nothing else but to grasp as shadows. Scripture is the most famous...
  6. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    This is why I say trinitarianism is opposed at every turn by: Definition Logic Language Usage Explicit Scripture 'For us, there is one God the Father' is cannot be recognized as refuting the trinitiy. Indeed, the fact that trinity is not in Scripture, the word nor concept, has no implicit...
  7. Wrangler

    Houtos Means Only "This" (John 6:60 & 1:2)

    This is a rare exploration by me into foreign Languages. houtos is the Greek word in both verses. It means "this" in English. οὗτος - Wiktionary Determiner οὗτος • (hoûtos), f αὕτη (haútē), n τοῦτο (toûto) (medial demonstrative determiner and pronoun) this (of place) here in contrast with ὅδε...
  8. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Like their insisting 'word' must be referring to Jesus, the idolatry of "I am" must mean he is claiming to be God is too dear to give up. It shows how desperate they must be to read into unitarian text what is not there AND simultaneously block out evidence that goes against their man-made...
  9. Wrangler

    DeSantis flies illegals to Martha's Vineyard

    The rules are for the little people.
  10. Wrangler

    Who would you want with you on a deserted Island?

    Angels don't come to minister to my during my trials and tribulations. Not that I can tell, anyway. It would make a big difference if they did and is one of the Biblical facts that go against the idea that Jesus was tempted like the rest of humanity. What company do I want during life's journey...
  11. Wrangler

    Proclaiming the Word Means?

    ‘The word’ proclaimed uses the definite article; it is specific to Jesus being the Messiah in Acts 18:5. It is not a question of what I or anyone else believes. If there are all these different ‘The word’ proclaimed verses, then it becomes confusing. That is why I am asking a fact based...
  12. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Well, he did per Hebrews 1. It's just that disctinction is not always made. It's the same with claiming Jesus is descended from David. That's only true if you recognoze the stepfather Joseph. If this is not true, how do you explain the verses of 'today' you become my son in Hebrews 1?
  13. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Don't you know an exclamation is not a statement of fact? When my toast falls butter side down, I am not literally claiming the toast is actually feces. Proof that the statement was an exclamation, there is not verse in Scripture that simply states 'Jesus is God' like there are many that say...
  14. Wrangler

    DeSantis flies illegals to Martha's Vineyard

    As I've said for decades, if it weren't for double standards, the Left would have none at all.
  15. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Right. He called him lord. There are many lords in the Bible. Peter did not say that Jesus is God.
  16. Wrangler

    DeSantis flies illegals to Martha's Vineyard

    True! Most Leftists don’t realize that. Or why that is.
  17. Wrangler

    Proclaiming the Word Means?

    Again? This is my thread. It’s my question. If you don’t want to answer it and ask you own question, start your own thread thank you.
  18. Wrangler

    Proclaiming the Word Means?

    Well, 1st of all, you can’t answer my question with a question. 2nd, @Robert Gwin already gave answer, Mat 28:19,20.
  19. Wrangler

    Proclaiming the Word Means?

    Doesn’t mean every ‘word’ in Scripture references Jesus. In the case of John 1:1, it referenced the literal word of God, not the person Jesus.
  20. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    What is hard to understand is any claim of a death meaning anything other than totally dead in every way. Death is the antonym of life. Yet, to say physical death implies a contradiction, non-death in some manner, shape or form - other than figurative.