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Rather than admit you are contradicting yourself, you reveal your mocking spirit. I'll pray for you.

Aristotlean logic: Contradictions do not exist in reality. Mystical Dualism: Contradictions exist in reality.

Pot, calling the kettle black. To wit: That's not what you wrote. You said, and I agreed that they were sent by God. Now you are twisting things into what they are not to suit your doctrine.

OK. With all due respect, I've found anyone who uses the terms 'godhead' or 'oneness' are mystics who assert illogical things, which is rejected out of hand. Deference is given, not to possible confusion of oneness, but to the 20,000 x God is referred to in Scripture using singular pronouns...

There is another thread that talks about the benefits of believing something one way or another. I like such risk analysis thinking. Given, we are saved by grace and not works, what is the benefit of believing OSAS v NOSAS? I embrace NOSAS and believe the benefit is humility. Humility in...

Is ANY idea diametrically opposed to trinitarianism?

Are you even aware of how your words destroy the trinity? I agree with what you write here, that neither the Holy Spirit nor Jesus are God but both came from God.

You keep talking about beliefs and make fallacious Appeals to Majority. I am talking about the fact that Jesus explicitly said he has a God, the Father, who is the only true God. That’s what is relevant here. Why is that not important to you?

Welcome to the forums Daniel. How long have you been saved? What do you mean to imply in your post?

Untrue. Every epistle explicitly identifies God as the Father alone. Every one! The Scriptural evidence against the trinity is total. There is no trinity verse and it is directly taught that God is one, the Father over and over again. I don't know why this doesn't mean anything to you. May...

Some kind of Appeal to Majority again. You too are entitled to your beliefs. I showed how mine are logical. You reference a forum that disagrees or rather denies the logical argument, the explict Scriputural teaching.

Strawman. This thread is about 1 verse. And you have not explained why it does not mean anything to you that Jesus said he has a God, who is the only true God. And to avoid another Strawman, Jesus explicitly says this. The other verses you refer to are not explicit. One has to read trinitarian...

Never read the Bible? It's as plain as day.

You did by this post. I doubt you are aware of how this statement destroys the trinity. If Jesus is the real God of the Bible, it necessarily means that the trinitarian god is not the real God of the Bible. And it also means the Father is not the real God of the Bible since Jesus is not the...

From the norm? Friend, the standard is from the Will of God. If you use the wrong standard, such as a societal standard, you are falling prey to Satan's perversion of God's Creation.

Jesus says he has a God (who is the Father) in John 20:17. And in John 17:3 he says his God (who is the Father) is the only true God. This thread is about the logical implications of these words from Jesus. See OP.

Again I ask

You logic contradicts Scripture. Consider how 1 COR 15:23-28 excludes God in Christianity's end game. 23 But there is an order to this resurrection: Christ was raised as the first of the harvest; then all who belong to Christ will be raised when he comes back. 24 After that the end will come...

"Biblical Unitarianism, contrary to its name, is not biblical. The problem is their false view of the nature God and the person of Christ. " Websites do not determine truth. Sad that you rely on copy and pasting websites as a proxy for discussion and argument. For instance, P1. For us, there is...

A rational person cannot see what is not there. If the doctor of the Trinity was in the scripture it would be the most quoted verse by those who suppose salvation depends on believing it. expound on it? It’s so simple even a Trinitarian can understand it. The Shama states God is one not three...