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  1. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I’ve explained this is not a threads. Like global warming alarmists, Who endlessly go on about ‘the science,’ STILL can’t admit it’s about politics when you can concede. Suppose everything about ‘the science’ is true, then what? trinitarians demand that scripture only be interpreted by...
  2. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    God is holy and has a spirit. That does not make this aspect of his existence to be a separate person from himself. That is a trinitarian invention and you, sir, are once again imposing Trinitarian dogma onto Unitarian text.
  3. Wrangler

    homosexuality and ethics

    do you want would never was and never will be. Pedophilia and homsexuality have something in common and that is sexual deviancy. That they are different in someway is irrelevant regarding morality.
  4. Wrangler

    John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

    No, are you serious? ‘Them’ other elect is who YHWH gave to Jesus as part of all authority. To take this to mean, YHWH have his name has no actual reference. A real stretch of interpretation.
  5. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    I’ve often wondered if this divine active power could be guardian angels?
  6. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Not only is this the opposite of clear (who God is talking to is unstated), this passage does not address the fact that there is not one single verse in all 66 books of Scripture that says the one God exists in three persons.
  7. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Sadly, I did not find it. I saw your question about other members beliefs thread from yesterday. Is that the one you are referring to or did you start another one? There is a long standing thread I've dabbled in entitled, "Jesus is God." If you want a fresh, play by play of the specific verses...
  8. Wrangler

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    I doubt you'll get an honest answer. Mr. Avoid the Subject and Replace Question With What You Deem A Better Question, Why not answer Peterlag's inferior question, out of respect, and then start a new thread with your superior, better question?
  9. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Trinitarian dogma says this but it contradicts what the Bible says. Please humbly admit that there is not one single verse in all 66 books of Scripture that says the one God exists in three persons. Thanks!
  10. Wrangler

    homosexuality and ethics

    I neighbor's son and I became very close. He was like a son to me. It came to light that there was an incident with him, ~14 yo and another neighbor's boy who was 4. I was devastated by this. I read up on it and learned there is a difference between pedophilia and child molestation. One is the...
  11. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Start another thread on that please. Again, you are all over the place. Without researching it, I recall Stephan saw Jesus standing at the right hand of God just before he died. Logic. Jesus is not God but is God's right hand man. No one stands on their own right hand side. See my thread on...
  12. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Hijacking the thread. Appeal to Diversion. Happy to address other Scripture in other threads. Listen. Starting a thread is free. Go start one. I suggest the 3 best verses or argument FOR and AGAINST the trinity. I think you are smart enough to realize it is hard to talk about dozens of...
  13. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Friend, this thread is about that one Scripture. Why can't you stick to it and admit what it says regarding your doctrine? I know you are new here. The other verses you presented have already been delved into in other threads and I'd be happy to have that conversation with you also. But I can...
  14. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Oh? Great! Please site any verse that states there is any God besides the Father. You can't and the reason is that Rich R is correct. On the one hand, we have trinitarian dogma. On the other hand, we have every Epistle stating only the Father is God. And Jesus's own words saying only the Father...
  15. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Pot calling the kettle black. This thread is not about those other verses. Why can't you understand that?
  16. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    There you go again. Rather than hijack this thread, why don't you acknowledge that Jesus is not God based on John 17:3, that he explicitly says his Father is the only true God and since he is not the Father, Jesus is not God. After that, you can start a thread on all the other verses you are...
  17. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Jesus is a man. Scripture repeatedly says he is a man. There is no verse that states he is a deity and there is no verse that confirms it. I don't know what one verse you are referring to, as I've repeatedly mentioned the Sh'ma, 1C & the verse that says all glory to God. Having said all that...
  18. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Truth is not determined by majority. Jesus said only his Father is the true God. You say Jesus is wrong?
  19. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    No! That’s trinitarianism imposing its dogma onto unitarian text. There you go again, defying Christ in claiming his words glorify him in the highest possible way. Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. John 8:54 All prophets speak for God. Jesus confessed he is not speaking...
  20. Wrangler

    John 1:1 - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God?

    Odd response to men referring to 3 verses. Again, the trinity is not in the Bible - not the word and not the concept. To avoid the inevitable Appeal to Strawman, there simply is no verse that reads something like The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit who...