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  1. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    Don’t you realize your error? The narrowest interpretation of a prohibition = wide and broad gate leading to destruction.
  2. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    Simple: A. My faith is based on the Bible. B. My faith is based on God. Friend, you are the one complicating it.
  3. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    Not that nonsense again! We are communicating on a public forum. There’s nothing private about it. Idolatry is put 2nd of the 10 Commandments. It is a very common sin, today and in ancient times - as Scripture details. Clearly, you prefer the narrowest possible interpretation of what this...
  4. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    The NRSV Study note in The Gospel of John in ch 14 or 15 compared similar but NOT IDENTICAL wording of a story. The note explained how ancient hearers expected and appreciated paraphrase. Today, many overly emphasize the importance of a literal translation. It is excessive precisely because...
  5. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    You have a falsely limited concept of what idolatry means. Numerous examples have already been provided.
  6. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    Not all translations do. My point is that it is a story of wrath even if Scripture does not use that word. Same with idolatry of Scripture by the Pharisees.
  7. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    You truly have no concept what an idol is. In American pop culture, sex, drugs, media, money are all examples of idols.
  8. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    It has already been shown to you multiple times - by me and @APAK. To your way of thinking, Cain and Able is not a story of jealousy, wrath, ego and rage because Scripture does not use these words to describe the story. To your way of thinking, the daughters who got their father drunk with...
  9. Wrangler

    Is Sunday the "New Covenant Sabbath"?

    Never heard of “replacement day."
  10. Wrangler

    Is Sunday the "New Covenant Sabbath"?

    Wow! The Jews believe in God and have been trusted to keep his word for Millenia. There is no such thing as a Christian Sabbath Day. True, the new Creation, like the old, began on the first day. However, that comforting symmetry changes nothing about resting on the 7th day, to keep it holy...
  11. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    It does address it. I’m sorry you are so contentious. I have several Bible translations. CEV, NLT, I have read cover to cover. NRSV and CJB, I’m 80% done in devotional reading. The VOICE and ESV, I read as the Spirit leads me. Naturally, the translations take on various verses are subtly...
  12. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    Would you change your opinion if I did quote Scriptures you know so well but do not have ears to hear?
  13. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    So, in your estimation, it is impossible to turn the Bible into an idol? I’m highly suspicious of that claim.
  14. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    Just ignore the Scripture about Jesus condemnations of the Pharisees turning the Sabbath into an idol, having NOTHING to do with their hypocrisy?! I agree the isolators were also hypocrites. You mean to suggest that only if the word is applied to a Bible story can that story qualify as a...
  15. Wrangler

    "The word was a god"?

    Did you catch the word, ‘may’ as opposed to ‘shall?’ Also, not equal in one way makes them not equal. Everything is equal in some way; doesn’t make them equal. Jesus died. God did not. Jesus was raised from the dead by God. God was not raised from the dead by Jesus. Inequality.
  16. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    I’m sorry but you are gravely mistaken. Practically the entire basis for Jesus repeated condemning the Pharisees is their idolatrous practices associated with the holy scriptures. His proclamation of being the Lord of the Sabbath and it being made for man, not man for it, as well as their...
  17. Wrangler

    How to be an honest Christian thinker.

    It is a good question. Was versus am. I agree with you. To keep the spirit humble, I do believe we need to consider our lowly, sinful nature without Christ. In other words, it is not merely a change in time from past to present but a heart transplant. Just a thought.
  18. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    Other religions have what they call holy books. Calling something a certain word doesn’t make that thing that word.
  19. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    Ouch! We are not talking about the many things in this world that are precious. We are talking about where you put your faith, a book or the living God. Never been rebuked before? Rather than have me speculate, why don’t you share your reaction? I love the word of God too. It’s just that I...
  20. Wrangler

    Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

    Appeal to Strawman. There you go again, falsely equating the word of God with the Bible. Look at it this way. Jesus said he is the water of eternal life. This is holy. What container is used to old it, like the Bible, is just a container and is not holy, in and of itself.