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  1. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Nowhere is Jesus called Father. I know you desperately want an OT verse to refer to Jesus - but it doesn't. Just another trinitarian imposed interpretation onto unitarian text.
  2. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Jesus is not mentioned once in the OT.
  3. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Language usage is an enemy to trinitarianism, as is logic, definition and Scripture. Joe Biden of Maryland is NOT the same thing as Maryland of Joe Biden. The term is converse. Converses are not the same thing. All squares are rectangles. TRUE. All rectangles are squares. FALSE. Jesus is the...
  4. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    And I showed how you were totally wrong in the verse you presented. Friend, you are relying on obsolete translations and getting confused with who "he" is. That's why I like the modern translation, which makes it more clear. Unfortunately, the last thing trinitarians want is clarity. Ambiguity...
  5. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Wow! We are not talking about Rev but Isaiah 44:6. Two beings can say the same thing. You do admit that prophets speak the words of God, right?
  6. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    You do not have eyes to see. This shows how desperate trinitarians are to find any verse that COULD be taken to support their doctrine. This is because there is no trinity in the Bible as an explicit teaching. I say 'I am' all the time and so do many people. It must mean that I am claiming to...
  7. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Don't you feel a tad silly saying 'God the Son,' when it is not in Scripture one time? When Scripture states 'God the Father,' trinitarians have convinced themselves that implies other Gods. All it means is emphasizing the Supreme Being and our proper relationship to him, his adopted children...
  8. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Naked Appeal to Majority. When Jesus died, most people did not believe he was the Savior, and that is still true today. Therefore, he cannot be the Savior.
  9. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Jesus is not even mentioned in Isaiah 44:6. How do you read Jesus into that verse?
  10. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    In addition, Jesus is never referred to as LORD (capitalized), only 1 of many lords (lowercase) in the Bible. The only God is Jesus' God. See Rom 15:6, 2 Cor 1:3, 11:31, Eph 1:3, 7, 17, Col 1:3, 1 Peter 1:3. If this is not so, why does Scripture tell us over and over and over again?
  11. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    You know this has been thoroughly answered already regarding agency. The prophets Isaiah and Jesus said these words before Revelation and God said it in Revelation. Prophets speak the words of God. It does not make them God. If you read Rev 1:1, you will find the resurrected Jesus, having...
  12. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Again, Scripture does not say what you claim it says. God. His Son. Not the same being. Look after yourselves and everyone the Holy Spirit has placed in your care. Be like shepherds to God’s church. It is the flock that he bought with the blood of his own Son. Acts 20:28 Contemporary English...
  13. Wrangler

    How God Can Witness & Judge Anyone?

    There sure are a lot of HOW does God do things threads. Seems a bit impertinent and lessons of Job are lost on the advocates.
  14. Wrangler

    How God Can Witness & Judge Anyone?

    No. Scripture testifies over 10,000 times that God is one Person, the Father. The trinity is not in the Bible.
  15. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    Only his Father is a deity. Only his Father is God. Scripture says this 10,000 times.
  16. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    My question was not about your (or Strong's) definition. What is wrong with you? My question is about your capacity of discernment. So far, you are certainly making an impression.
  17. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    That’s so whacked! Jesus is the Lamb of God. This is how you know he is not God. Why you reject what Jesus said, to only worship his God, makes no sense. Such idolatry!
  18. Wrangler

    Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

    No. No definition of manifest was given but I suspect you want and must make up new definitions because the actual definitions do not support but undermine your doctrine at every turn.
  19. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    Who worships Jesus? Jesus told us true worshippers only worship God The Father.
  20. Wrangler

    Understanding the Trinity.

    God's mirror is not God!