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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    He's in heaven, buddy. You can't get around it. It never says that God the Father is coming to the earth. Do you deny that Jesus ever ascended to the right hand of the Father in heaven or something? That is so clearly what Daniel 7:13-14 is about. Just compare it to Ephesians 1:19-22 and notice...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Not ALL the physically dead are raised at the same time, the dead in Christ rise FIRST.

    So, @Biblepaige all you can do is laugh in response? That proves that you know he said nothing about pretrib in his post and you are indeed paranoid. Thanks for confirming that.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    Are you just ignoring everything that people are telling you about Daniel 7:13-14? Where does it say He is coming to in verse 13? Are you afraid to answer the question? It's not hard to see. It says He came to the Ancient of days and was brought before Him. Who is the Ancient of days and where...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    I don't know what you're talking about as it relates to verse 21. How can you say that verse relates to a time after the return of Christ when you already acknowledge that verses 13 and 14 relate to His ascension? You're not making any sense here. You understand that Daniel 7:17-27 is the...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    But, when I claim that verse 12 is also parenthetical, you just can't bring yourself to even consider how that can possibly be true and you just immediately dismiss that possibility. :rolleyes: Daniel 7:12 (The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    That is very clear to anyone who reads Daniel 7:13-14 without doctrinal bias. As clear as can be.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    Nope. You are very ignorant about what scripture teaches. That isn't talking about the kingdom of Christ that He has already been reigning over since His resurrection. That is talking about how the kingdom of the world, which is evil, will be destroyed at that point. Read Psalm 2:7-9 where it...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    The beast's kingdom is destroyed. You are very confuzed (misspelled on purpose...I'll assume you know why). That is referring to the kingdom of God, not the beast's kingdom. You just don't get it.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    Coming to where? Daniel 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    I don't believe that, of course. If you're just going to make false accusations about what I believe then I have no interest in continuing this discussion. Do you plan on continuing to do that?
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    Keeping us from "the hour of temptation" involves taking us off of the earth? Not according to Jesus. John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. Your interpretation of Revelation 3:10 blatantly contradicts what Jesus...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    You're right. I have issues with the way you never do anything to back up your claims with scripture. You're all opinion and no scripture. Meanwhile, WPM and I back up our claims with scripture often, as everyone here who has read our posts knows.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    LOL. I might have to rethink how I interpret that verse as I have not considered this before.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    During the 7th seal, the church is not there in heaven, but instead with Christ in the air while He takes vengeance on His enemies. That's why there is silence in heaven during the 7th seal. No one is there at that point. Your inability to see the parallels between the seals, trumpets and vials...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    If you remember that Daniel 7:27 is part of the explanation given for Daniel 7:13-14, then you should see that's talking about the kingdom given to Christ that Daniel 7:14 references, which is not the beast's kingdom which is instead destroyed. If you can't understand that then you likely can't...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    You think the saints would accept an evil kingdom? What are you even thinking here? No, it's Christ's kingdom that that they are given. This is hopeless to get you to understand what Daniel 7 is about, so I'm done with this particular discussion.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    You talk about me not bringing my bible to the table while you say ridiculous things like this to people. How is this a case of bringing your Bible to the table? No one is saying that any believer has to endure the wrath that will occur when Jesus comes and we are caught up to Him. Your...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    POSTRIB RAPTURE. A BIBLE ONLY VIEW

    LOL. This is rich coming from you when you never exegete any scripture and never present a coherent argument showing exactly how you interpret the Bible. All you have is opinions. You think that's enough. It's not. How many times have we asked you to actually quote sciripture and show exactly...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    I didn't say that. Why would the saints want the beast's kingdom, which is evil? No, the kingdom of Christ is given to the saints. The beast's kingdom is destroyed. But, I know from what you said in another post that we're not really getting anywhere because you don't recognize that Daniel...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The time, times, and a half does not include the season and time, which is the thousand years.

    Yep, you make the same mistake many others do, but there's no question that Daniel 7:13-14 is about His ascension. You see the reference to Him coming with the clouds of heaven and that immediately makes you think of Matthew 24:30 and Revelation 1:7. But, you fail to notice where it shows Him...