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Wrong. Salvation is the result of receiving the Holy Spirit. Being saved and being born of the Holy Spirit is synonymous. You can't enter the kingdom of God without being born again (John 3:3-5). In your view, someone could be saved and die before being born again and they would then not enter...

Regardless of where the kingdom is, Paul very clearly taught that mortal flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 15:50). But, you have mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God. You can't get around the fact that you are contradicting 1 Corinthians 15:50 with...

Your nonsense never ceases to amaze me. I can't help reacting the way I do to your nonsense and your constant twisting of scripture. Everyone can see it. You deny that "the coming of the Lord" referenced in 1 Thess 4:14-17 is the second coming. That is just absolutely ridiculous. There's no...

That is what you do. By the way, you are lending support to someone who denies the deity of Christ. So, he knows a lot about ignoring the obvious. What is obvious is that Jesus Himself said He has authority over all of heaven and earth (Matt 28:18). You premils ridiculously think He can't be...

No, of course I don't mean that. Yet, you are completely incapable of backing up that statement with any convincing evidence just like you never back up anything you say with any convincing evidence. That would be you. I think I made that clear. You are the one saying He's not ruling over...

How does this address my question relating to Isaiah 65:17-25 and Revelation 21:1-4? Anyway, I agree with what you said here. So, notice what happens at that point: Matthew 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son...

Agree. 2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Revelation 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

This says it all about how you look at things. You think the makers of a Transformers movie can discern the truth of God? LOL. The movie was made by Bible scholars, was it? Or was it just made by SDAs? Do you go around in every thread spreading your false doctrine of soul sleep while denying...

You don't know the difference between facts and opinions. I do NOT have the church on earth during the 7th seal. The reason there is silence in heaven for half an hour at the 7th seal is because no one is there. Jesus will have descended at that point with the souls of the dead in Christ who...

Daniel 12:2 is about the resurrection of the dead in general and not just Daniel's people. There is no reason to see Daniel 12:2 and John 5:28-29 as different events. Believing that causes you to conclude that there will be two separate events where both saved and lost people will be...

The feeling is mutual. If you insist on denying obvious things like what Paul taught about the dead in Christ and those who are alive and remain unto the second coming of Christ TOGETHER being caught up to Him AT THE SAME TIME, then you are probably beyond hope yourself. The only hope is if you...

Why would you mock what someone else says about it if you're not even sure yourself? That's ridiculous. That's why I said you must be an expert since you came across that you were so sure that I wasn't interpreting what it means correctly. Though I was focused more on the idea of "the forces of...

I absolutely am not. Don't make claims that you can't back up. Yes, those 2 were saying that the mass bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ that scripture teaches will happen at Christ's second coming had already happened. That is clear. Don't tell me I'm adding to what's written. You...

Sure, why not? John specifically said he saw the souls of the dead in Christ (Rev 6:9-11, Rev 20:4). He didn't say he saw their bodies. People are made up of body, soul and spirit (1 Thessalonians 5:23). Sure, why not? Again, John saw their souls. Why would you try to say he saw them with...

That the corporate mass bodily resurrection of the dead in Christ had already occurred. You are making a similar error by denying that there will be a future corporate mass bodily resurrection of the dead, as scripture clearly teaches there will be (Daniel 12:2, John 5:28-29, 1 Thess 4:14-17, 1...

But, you were talking about souls being resurrected. They can't be resurrected if they don't die. Figuratively speaking, sure. But, so what? In 1 Corinthians 15, Paul is not talking about a figurative resurrection he talks about the literal resurrection of the body. Where you get the idea that...

To try to claim that a passage that specifically refers to "the coming of the Lord", as 1 Thess 4:14-17 does, is not referring to the second coming is pure nonsense and utterly ludicrous. You can't expect to be taken seriously when you basically say that the future "coming of the Lord" is not...

Oh look, it must be recess time. I was responding to user "dad" and his reference to the "forces of hell" that he equated with the gates of hell. So, he was talking about forces of hell like Satan and his angels and the people they deceive and such who oppose the church. So, I was responding to...

LOL. Complete nonsense. You say His coming again is not His second coming. LOL! This is only something that could be thought up in someone's imagination. Scripture teaches that Jesus will appear the second time without sin unto salvation (Hebrews 9:28). It does not ever say He will later appear...

He never will. Do you agree that He reigns over all of heaven and earth now as He said He does? Can you explain why you never talk about that? It seems that His current reign doesn't really mean anything to you. Why is that? Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the...