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  1. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    you did? I did not see anything. Unless your answer is you never did this. which if this is the case. then how can you say your a child of God
  2. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    In adam all die The penalty of sin is death. Being born again, we who were DEAD in tresspasses and sin were made alive Spiritual death is all over scripture
  3. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    You state you are a believer. I just asked if you remember a time you received Christ. I do. Everyone I know does. It was a special day. I remember it like it was yesterday and it was over 40 years ago. so are you saying you never recieved Christ?
  4. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    do you remember fulfilling romans 10? 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the...
  5. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    Because they did not believe. He who believes is not condemned But he who does NOT BELIEVE is condemned ALREADY
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Saved By Grace Through FAITH ...

    What mistake, it is right there in Gods word Gen 15: 6 And he believed in the Lord, and He accounted it to him for righteousness. (justified) This happened before abraham left his fathers house. Paul agreed. Rom 4: 4 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    THIS IS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS JUSTIFIED IN GEN 15, BEFORE HE EVEN LEFT HIS FATHERS HOUSE AND STARTED THE TRIP TO THE LAND WHERE GOD WAS TAKING HIM. AND YES. I CAN YELL TOO.. IT IS RUDE TO USE ALL CAPS MY FRIEND.
  8. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    Very well said!. This is what I have experienced also, and this is also what I see.. The gospel is security. It is rest from our work. It is stop being weary and heavy laden and entering the rest of Christ.
  9. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    Why did Noah walk with God Because he had faith Noah was SAVED by his faith. Because of his faith he was made a child of God Because of this, Noah walked with God and God walked with him To add works to Osas or grace is to nullify both.
  10. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    What your telling me is the truth. Concerning most jews. They were continually unbelievers But even david understood. Saying sacrifice and burnt offering you did not desire. and blessed is the one for whom God does not input sin. rom 4: 5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    if a non believers does every work possible. they will still fall short. For all have sinned and fall short.
  12. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    Nope Your missing the point. Your trying to insert works to salvation..
  13. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    remember. Jews were non believers.but when it came to the law they were the harders workers that there ever were.. And they did it all to get to heaven. its also why they rejected christ. Because Christ said nothing they did would help them. all their works were in vein
  14. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    yep. And God saved this person who never had faith? Why do you think he had faith. let alone God saved that person and made them into a new creature? Why does he still act like a dog? (non believer) if he was transformed into a new creation?
  15. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    Why would a person who has FAITH do nothing? BETTER YET. how can they? if doing something is required. We earn salvation. Not of works lest anyone should boast. why would you even think of boasting after what we saw the jews do?
  16. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    this is works salvation. Your basing your eternity on what YOU DO. This is a losing proposition. Because if YOU could save yourself. Christ died in vein
  17. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    Not sure where you get that hell was not a threat. Eternal death has always been a threat.
  18. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    He who believes is not condemned (saved) He who does not believe is condemned already (needs saved) Its not about works or doing nothing. It is about the gift God to give us. Do we accept his gift in faith. or reject it in unbelief.
  19. Eternally Grateful

    new version of OSAS?

    Why does a drowning man need a savior. Because in his state he is as good as dead, and without one he will die Why does a man in a burning building need a savior. because in his state he is as good as dead, and without one he will die Why does a man in a car accident with critical injuries need...
  20. Eternally Grateful

    Saved By Grace Through FAITH ...

    This is not true Gen 15 said Abraham believed God and he accredited to him as righteousness paul in Romans 4 says the same thing, abrahams believe was about the promise in Gen 15. Abraham committing adultry was what most men would do if they get permission from their wife to sleep with a...