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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    What is the deal with your scoffing attitude? Can you please address what I said in my post? Did you even read it? I don't even know what you mean by "more than one specific group that signifies firstfruits". What does that even mean? Why are you asking me that question when I didn't say...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    Or it can refer to the part of man that is called the soul, as Paul did. 1 Thess 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. He did not say he saw "souls who were slain"...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Not surprisingly, you have to resort to unbiblical sources to support your doctrine since it's not taught in the Bible anywhere.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    I will get the last laugh....brother. You are very clearly in the wrong here. VERY clearly. No, you read it again. I guarantee you have me cracking up harder than you are because you are clearly not reading it carefully at all. 1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    What else can be expected from someone who undermines Paul's teachings by claiming that Paul didn't have the full revelation of Bible prophecy so his teachings can't be used to support end times doctrine. That is what this person tailgator indicated to me when I used 1 Cor 15:22-23 to back up a...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Currently, yes. That's why I believe we are in Satan's little season now. But, don't miss my point here. I'm talking about the time period since the resurrection of Christ. Paul said that in Old Testament times Gentiles had "no hope" and were "without God in the world" (Ephesians 2:11-12) but...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Oh, I didn't know that you were the ultimate authority on defining what is and what is not an advent of Christ. How interesting. advent (noun): the arrival of a notable person, thing, or event. It seems that Jesus's arrival to the earth's atmosphere does qualify as an advent of Christ...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Because that is what scripture teaches. You see multiple future comings of Christ where they are not clearly indicated, so it's all based on your assumptions and nothing more. The 144,000 are spiritually redeemed. Their souls are in heaven with Christ. There is more than one way to be redeemed...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Can you explain how that's possible in light of this passage: 2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    You know someone has a huge ego and needs to humble himself when he says something ridiculous like this. Oh boy, here we go. How exciting. Let's read on... That is talking about bodily mortality, not mortality in general. Once again, you are taking scripture out of context. Nothing new here...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Exactly. Look what happens any time we question them about when it is that it becomes the case that the second death has no power over us. Revelation 20:6 strongly implies that one MUST have part in the first resurrection in order for the second death to not have any power over him or her. The...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    It's all they have to offer. Notice what happens any time we start exegeting scripture and showing what it actually teaches. It devolves into a war of insults. That's their tactic to distract from the fact that they have nothing to refute what we're saying. Jesus very clearly taught that all...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    You are noticeably not backing up your claim with scripture. 1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    How exactly did I ever PURPOSELY misrepresent the words of God? If I was at all it would've been by mistake. Is it not possible for people to make mistakes in your world? You make judgments and assume people do that purposely. You are lacking in grace and mercy just like your doctrine where you...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    Great response....friend. Very convincing. Another really convincing argument. Nope. That's not at all what he said. You are trying to change what he said to say what you want it to say. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    I know myself far better than you do. I know that I am not purposely misrepresenting anything. I don't care what you believe about me. I know I am not. You're the only one here who is condemning others for having a different interpretation. Think about that. Which is? What would I be gaining...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    I don't claim that verses 1 and 2 are stand alone verses, so I don't know what you're talking about. The context of Matthew 7:1-2 is to not condemn people. Luke 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Exactly. But, he apparently does not believe that people are conscious after they physically die, so that would be why he denies that anyone can be alive (zao) without being physically/bodily alive.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Which we do not. If I'm purposely misrepresenting any of the words of God, may He strike me down right now. We're not doing that. You are not our Judge. Very snake like to condemn others for merely having a different interpretation of Revelation 20 than you do. God is going to deal with you if...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    You are not one to talk. When I backed up my view with 1 Cor 15:22-23 you dismissed it because you claim that Paul didn't have the full revelation when it came to Bible prophecy. As if Paul wasn't inspired by the Holy Spirit. So, no one should listen to you about anything since you undermine the...