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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    The posts are coming fast and furious in this thread, so it's hard to keep up. I missed that one. So, you do believe in soul sleep. That explains a lot. Does it look like the souls of the dead in Christ that John saw in heaven were sleeping? Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Will you try to tone it down a few notches? You're going to give yourself a heart attack. What lie did I tell exactly? Remember, to lie is to intentionally deny the truth. I did not deny that the word was used to refer to people being bodily alive in the verses you quoted. How often are those...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    That is because he does not differentiate between the body and the soul and spirit of a person. That's why I'm asking him if he believes that the souls of the dead in Christ who are in heaven now are alive or not. He's trying to claim that the word "zao" can only refer to those who are alive...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    I have answered your questions. Don't lie. I don't see where you said whether or not you believe the souls of the dead in Christ are alive or not. So, what is your answer to that question?
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    LOL. Are my questions too difficult for you? Your avoidance of them says a lot. Are you afraid to answer them? Do you not think the souls of the dead in Christ who are in heaven right now are alive? Do you believe in soul sleep?
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Please stop your hypocrisy. You just accused me of lying in a previous post. You have hurled insults left and right at people ever since I joined this forum and you know it, so spare me this nonsense. If I am misinterpreting something, so be it. I am absolutely not doing it on purpose as you are...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Scripture rarely even refers to the souls of the dead in Christ, so of course the word is going to be used to refer to being bodily alive a vast majority of the time. That proves nothing about how the word is used in Revelation 20 where the word is used to refer to the souls of physically DEAD...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    No, that is not right. Some of us are Amils and we are saying that the first resurrection itself was Christ's resurrection because that is what scripture teaches. Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    That lines up with the rest of scripture which says that He started reigning when He was resurrected. Jesus knew that, why don't you? Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. And, at least we don't accuse you Premils of being...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    This is a lie. It does not say he saw them alive in their bodies, it says he saw their souls. You are twisting the text to make it say what you want it to say. The word "zao" refers to living and being alive. Do you not think the souls of the dead in Christ who are in heaven right now are alive...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Do you believe that someone can avoid the second death any other way besides having part in the first resurrection? Do you care if your interpretation of Revelation 20 lines up with the rest of scripture or not? Tell me how you interpret the following passage. Does it refer to one or two hours...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Why do you make no differentiation between the body and the soul? Do you believe in soul sleep?
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Yes, they will be changed. They won't die. Look at this verse carefully: Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. This says...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Do you have ears to hear what Jesus taught or would you prefer to change it to say what you want it to say? John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Are the dead in Christ still in danger of experiencing the second death? No, right? You are talking about BODILY immortality here. Surely, there is no chance that the dead in Christ will end up suffering the second death, right? A bodily resurrection is not what is necessary to avoid the second...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Stop your vain babblings already. You will be judged by the same measure you are judging me (Matthew 7:1-2) which is not good for you. If I'm mistaken in any of my beliefs, so be it. But, everyone can see that I back them up with scripture. I do NOT deceitfully handle the words of God. That is a...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    That's talking about the body, of course. Does the second death have power over us all the way up until our bodies are resurrected? What about those who are alive and remain until Christ's second coming? They're out of luck? What does scripture say about when it becomes true that the second...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    The number of times something is mentioned does not determine whether it's literal or not. The beast is mentioned over 30 times in the book. Does that make it a literal beast? These kinds of arguments are weak, at best. Is this the same way you came to believe that Paul didn't have the full...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    I do. I interpret them differently than you do. You are being foolish! And you are slandering Amils! 2 Timothy 2:18 does not apply to what Amils believe. You are lying about Amils by applying that passage to us when we do NOT believe that "the resurrection", which refers to the resurrection of...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    But shun profane and vain babblings

    LOL. Oh, I'm so scared. You are making threats. Oh no, what to do. LOL. What a joke. Since when is interpreting the book of Revelation a case of purposely adding to it or taking away from it, which is what that passage is about? You are being foolish. You should be embarrassed. Will everyone...