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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Where does it indicate that "the goats are sinners that are alive on earth at the time of Christ's coming"? Why would they not include "they that have done evil" who are resurrected unto "damnation", as Jesus talked about here: John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Agree. There is no question whatsoever that Daniel 7:13-14 refers to the ascension of Christ. It very clearly has Him coming to God the Father in heaven there rather than coming from heaven towards earth. Look at the obvious similarities between these passages, which I will color code to make...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Notice the reference in Daniel 12:2 to the resurrection of "some to shame and everlasting contempt" which occurs at the same time as those who are resurrected to "everlasting life", just as Jesus taught in John 5:28-29. Why do you have the resurrection of dead unbelievers and their judgment...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    But, there's no actual judgment that takes place in Revelation 20:4 as is the case in Revelation 20:12. Will the books be opened for judgment more than once? I don't believe so. Why would that be the case? Can you tell me how you interpret this passage: Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    You think you are humble? LOL! You are too funny. Ah, yes, the ol' "The Holy Spirit is guiding me, but not you" claim. Such a humble guy you are. Again....you are the one saying it's all figurative despite the mention of real people and places. So, I should be the one laughing. And I am. LOL...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Why would you relate that passage to Revelation 20:4 instead of Revelation 20:12? When will the books be opened for judgment? Here... Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Where is it taught there? Spiritual bodies are immortal and incorruptible, so how do you explain a number "as the sand of the sea" being physically destroyed on the earth by fire from heaven after the thousand years is over, as depicted in Revelation 20:7-9? Where do those mortals come from?
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Several things, one of which is "the time of the dead, that they should be judged" (Rev 11:18). Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Who exactly will populate this supposed "millennial kingdom"? As a post-trib, you believe all believers will be changed to have immortal bodies when He comes, right? Scripture teaches that all unbelievers will be killed at that time. You stopped at verse 16 there, but look at what it says in...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    I was completely calm when saying that. I could not see how what you were saying had anything to do with what I said. Well, we need to end this discussion soon then since neither of us are seeing what the other is saying. It's becoming a waste of time. You are saying you think he is not a...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    LOL. Keep dreaming then if you want. Did you remember to bow down before your statues of William Tyndale and Ellen G. White today?
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    You are saying that none of the passage is literal, not me. Wrong. You act as if there is only one definition of the word soul. The word can refer to a whole person. Or it can refer to the part of a person called the soul, which is separate form the body and the spirit (1 Thess 5:23). And the...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Before the flood is actually "after"

    What are you talking about? Please try to communicate clearly so that I don't have to guess as to what you are saying. I showed that Noah and Lot were removed THE SAME DAY that God's wrath came down and destroyed all unbelievers. That is what will happen on the day Jesus returns. We will be...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Listing them wouldn't accomplish anything. He needs to exegete them. Show exactly how he interprets them. He never does that. Yet, he always acts as if he's proven something somehow.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Please read what he said again. He asked you "Why would we need a future millennium? Where is this taught elsewhere in Scripture?". You didn't answer either question. His second question is related to any other scripture besides Revelation 20.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    So, calling it willful ignorance is the more polite way of calling it foolish nonsense, right? LOL. I don't need to read that nonsense. That's your problem. You rely too much on the teachings of man. It seems you read the teachings of man more than you read scripture. What you're saying does...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    Please stop the holier than thou act. It's not fooling anyone. You are welcome to put me on your ignore list.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Amen. In Amil post-trib in particular we put our focus on Christ more than any other end times belief system. In our view, He is the King of kings and Lord of lords NOW and He reigns over all of heaven and earth right now. For someone to claim that our focus is on some imaginary Antichrist is a...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I agree. You fall in to the latter group you described. It looks like you support the guy who denies the deity of Christ then? Do you deny His deity, also? LOL at your holier than thou act which you follow up with this nonsense associating Amil with Satan. How nice. You are completely incapable...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Yes, it makes him angry and frustrated when we exegete scripture and make coherent arguments, knowing that he has never done so himself and is likely incapable of doing so.