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  1. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Proving you have no Earthly idea what dualism is. Fully man. Fully god. That is dualism.
  2. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    A trinitarian assertion that goes against monotheist text and 1,000 years of history.
  3. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    I don’t recall that but am not sure how it relates beyond rationalizing how unitarian text supports trinitarian dogma. I don't think so. Maybe I'll have time this weekend to research the history of the exchanges. No. History. Revisionist history. Not the same as contemporaneous...
  4. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Wow! It is not about versions of history. The fact is Isaiah was a monotheist. All the Bible authors were monotheists. Their writing must be read within that context. After 1,000 years Trinitarian’s attempted to revise the meaning of Isaiah. Fortunately for us, the Jews are still with us...
  5. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Many. Years ago, my roommate compiled a list of ancient mythology where all these virgins were impregnated by various gods. Are you even aware the ‘virgin’ translation in Isaiah is not accurate? My 86 yo friend recalled the outrage when half a century ago, a translation his church adopted...
  6. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Always, my friend. Like HiddeninHim, I’ve been tied up a lot the last couple of days. And I conceited that you might have already replied and I just haven’t caught up yet.
  7. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    In other words, Isaiah did not even mention Jesus or the Messiah. Isaiah was a monotheist and you have to look at his words in that context. What is nonsensical is the trinitarian imposing their doctrine on unitarian text.
  8. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Really? Isaiah is Jewish, who are monotheists. Stop trying to impose trinitarian doctrine onto unitarian text.
  9. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    I thought this post explained that, I'm not sure how to parse your question. People like BarneyFife do not coerce. So, I am not attempting to make "ALL" type statements but he also side stepped my question about recognizing the coercive pattern in these forums and this very thread (unless he...
  10. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Oy vey. The text reads "God" gave "Jesus" a revelation. This is not how language is used where one person is involved. One does not Joe Biden gave himself a thing; one says Joe took a thing.
  11. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    That is possible but does not change the fact. Do you deny trinitarians have used coercion on this very forum and even this very thread?! If you compare the energy of trinitarian doctrine to, say soul sleep or OSAS, there is no comparison. I believe we are of the same mind on OSAS. But among...
  12. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Hmmm. I did address the remarks you made. You asked, why especially, I explained. Then you spoke of what is genuine, and I explained. What would it take for you to feel like I did address the remarks you made? I really do want you to feel that I did respond, even if it was not agreeing with you.
  13. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    You don't see any harm in a coercive ideology? In my view, it is always dangerous to go beyond the word of God. Frankly, there is no need to extrapolate. That trinitarianism relies on coercion is evidence of it not being divine. And so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your...
  14. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    We all know you have talked about time constraints. Until you have the time to reply, let who responds have their moment in the sun. Lighten up bud. You started a good thread. Now onto the point. Request denied. (Requests are not to be 'respected.' They are to be answered.) APAK answered 'no'...
  15. Wrangler

    Jesus Is God: Part 1

    Isaiah is speaking. Isaiah is speaking for God as all prophets do. Not sure how you come to this alternative. Jesus fulfills the promise God made in Deuteronomy 18:15-18 and Isaiah as the suffering servant. This is made explicitly clear in the NT in the Book of Acts. Do you deny Revelations...
  16. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Well, I think the "you" that you meant was me and not @BarneyFife. And no. I will not remove any of the unitarian text of Scripure, nor will I impose on the unitarian text trinitarian dogma, such as in Genesis, which like the rest of Scripture does not teach the trinity. The easiest way to...
  17. Wrangler

    The Only Problem With The Trinity

    Subverting Christ's authority again? Most Protestants I know take the word of God over councils of men.
  18. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    It is especially because that is the dominant God tempting people to violate the 1C. In this case, you know the trinitarian doctrine is not genuine because it began in the 4th century and goes against Scripture. There is no verse that says The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of...
  19. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Not at all. It's just that if the above plural pronoun is important, the singular pronoun in the 1C is even more important. You shall have no gods before me. This includes especially the trinitarian god. Friend. The trinity is not in the Bible - not the word & not the doctrine.